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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>James: I’d like to ask to clarify – it would seem
what I’ve been doing to import previous schedules and such is very
similar in function… <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Wouldn’t clicking “File </span><span
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
Import File </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;
color:#1F497D'>ā</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> Navigate to input.inp” in detailed mode do exactly the
same thing for you?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Paul: thanks so much for the clarification! I did have a strong
hunch I was running in circles and now I may have some ammo next time I’m
criticized for relying on the DOE2.1e library materials =).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Adam: you’ve described the exact process I have begun –
though so far I’ve only saved bits and pieces of reuseable work from
projects I’ve done along the way rather than try to build any one library
of references. Overall your layers look very organized and similar to what I’m
used to seeing. eQuest’s overall calculated U-value for each
construction appear to be floating slightly above the 90.1 Chapter 5 table
values but I’m certain that’s just a rounding issue… I don’t
have enough experience to guess whether it might cause you or anyone else
trouble with a picky model reviewer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>To everyone: Are there any plans on the DOE2 development side
of things to add ASHRAE 90.1 construction/layer/material entries similar to
Adam’s example to the default eQuest libraries, or would this fall too
low on the list of development priorities?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adam.Boyd@CH2M.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] 90.1 and Appendix A Materials<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>A while back I developed an INP file that contained all the
baseline constructions for every climate zone. If you’ve got the ASHRAE
Fundamentals handbook for looking up material properties, this was a pretty
routine process. First create the new materials/layers/constructions in
detailed edit mode, Appendix A has some detailed descriptions on what those
should be (see A3.3.1 for steel framed wall). Next open the inp file and delete
everything except the materials, layers and constructions. You can then import
that inp file into any project using the eQuest import function. I’ve
attached the file I created for this and just ask that you let me know if you
find any mistakes!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’ve been considering creating a similar file with the
ASHRAE recommended schedules from the 90.1 User’s Manual, but not sure if
this would be as useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Adam<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Seth P. Spangler
[mailto:sspangle@rmf.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 27, 2010 5:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Paul Riemer; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] 90.1 and Appendix A Materials<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#0070C0'>Paul,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#0070C0'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#0070C0'>I’ve been browsing through the ASHRAE DOE-2 files since
receiving your email. I believe I have been following the same rabbit trail
that Nick has so it would be great to have canned constructions. Can you
explain the best method for importing the ASHRAE constructions into a model? I
assume the edit must be made in the INP file. I typically try to avoid editing
the INP file since my knowledge of the “code” behind eQuest is
limited.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#0070C0'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#0070C0'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#0070C0'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";
color:#0070C0'>Seth Spangler, LEEDŽ AP <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";
color:#0070C0'>Project Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#0070C0'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";
color:#0070C0'>RMF Engineering, Inc <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";
color:#0070C0'>Ph: (843) 971-9639 ext:1497</span><span style='color:#0070C0'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";
color:#0070C0'>Fax: (843) 971-9641 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";
color:#0070C0'>sspangle@rmf.com</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0070C0'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul
Riemer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 26, 2010 5:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Nick Caton'; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] 90.1 and Appendix A Materials<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Nick,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The DO2.1e input files available as part of the 90.1 User's
Manual rely on the DOE2 library of construction materials.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Paul Riemer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Dunham<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nick
Caton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 26, 2010 3:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] 90.1 and Appendix A Materials<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'>Has anyone invested the time to create or otherwise stumbled
across an *.inp file that contains the materials defined in Appendix A9 for
easy import/use?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'>I had a model reviewer (not USGBC) who was unsatisfied with
the material thermal properties in the default DOE2 library. I ultimately
went through the enormously entertaining exercise of defining materials with
matching prescriptive R-values, while still using library data to retain
appropriate thermal massing properties to avoid construction errors from
weightless constructions.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'>This was an isolated case, but I could see such a file being
a very handy resource for most modelers, particularly if it contained the
contents of Tables A9.2A and 9.2B to pull the effective insulation/framing
properties into our custom construction layers.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'>If this is flying over anyone’s head who’s
interested, attached is a partial example of what I’m talking about
– if you click File ā Import File… and navigate to this file,
you’ll have a couple defined materials ready to access for your project
within seconds – conceivably everything within 90.1 if someone had the
time to invest...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'>On a related note… and I should have asked before, but
does Section A9.2 possibly exempt the rest of Section A9 for eQuest users who
rely on unmodified default library entries to define their custom envelope
constructions?<o:p></o:p></p>
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