I agree with Karen. I have another thought though: could this be an insulating concrete form wall (ICF) wall? Google ICF for info.<br><br>Carol<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Karen Walkerman <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:kwalkerman@gmail.com">kwalkerman@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div>The best thing to do is model the actual wall construction, not just an equivalent R-value, then you will get both the thermal resistive and the mass effect properties in the model.<br>
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<div>Karen</div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Rob Hudson <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rdh4176@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdh4176@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">

That is the answer i was expecting to here.  thanks for your input<div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Bruce Easterbrook <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bruce5@bellnet.ca" target="_blank">bruce5@bellnet.ca</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


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<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">That doesn&#39;t sound right. 
Poured</font> concrete has an R-value around 0.08/inch.  When
&quot;effective&quot; is used commercially it normally is a hocus pocus addition
for the mass effect but shouldn&#39;t be much more than 10%.  eQuest would
calculate it as a lag effect based on the mass, so a steady state value
would be most appropriate.<br>
Bruce Easterbrook<div><br>
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On 22/04/2010 10:38 AM, Rob Hudson wrote:
</div><blockquote type="cite"><div>When creating a model, i noticed that the R-value of the
concrete i am using is the &quot;effective&quot; R-value, rated at 22.  Should i
use this or should i ask the concrete manufacturer for a steady-state
R-value which will be much more accurate based on the materials?<br clear="all">
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-- <br>
Rob Hudson<br>
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