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color:#1F497D'>This is easy to fix. You cannot assign systems directly to
spaces, they must be associated with a thermal zone. Under “airside HVAC” right
click on project and choose “create thermal zone.” Assign the dummy zone to the
dummy space and then assign the system to the zone (double click on the zone,
under “basic specifications” set the parent system to DOAS).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>tsea2005<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 20, 2010 8:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rob Hudson<br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org; JGrando<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] How to turn off hot water loop and how to
make aFCU+DOAS system simulation<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left'><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>Hi Rob Hudson,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left'><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>                 First
thanks for your reply. I followed you advice that set the snap temp to
120, and there is no heating load, I made it .<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left'><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>                  But
for the DOAS system ,as you said that the dummy space </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>doesn't
need to have walls or loads,I created a new floor</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'> named
dummy floor using a box with 1ft width ,1ft depth and 1ft
floor-floor.Then in the dummy floor ,I created a child space named
dummy space with box-shaped,1ft width ,1ft depth. After this ,I created a new
HVAC system named DOAS system , that is SZRH.Here is the problem:the DOAS
system's "control zone" dose't include the dummy space defined
ealier,as the chart showed below, So I have to cancel. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left'><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>The simulation can't run
,then I checked the building description</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"MS Mincho";color:navy'>,</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>it turned out as the chart
showed below:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left'><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>I do know that I have
misunderstood the method definfying the dummy space </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Mincho";color:navy'>,</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>w</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>hat
is the correct one</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Mincho";
color:navy'>?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’ve attached my INP and PD2 files.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left'><strong><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif"'>发件人:</span></strong><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> Rob Hudson <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left'><strong><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif"'>发送时间:</span></strong><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> 2010-04-19 
22:07:20 <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left'><strong><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Mincho"'>收件人:</span></strong><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> Grando, John <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left'><strong><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Mincho"'>抄送:</span></strong><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> tsea2005; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left'><strong><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Mincho"'>主</span></strong><strong><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif"'>题:</span></strong><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> Re: [Equest-users]
How to turn off hot water loop and how to make aFCU+DOAS system simulation <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal align=left style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-align:left'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>you can keep the
heating and hot water in the model, and simply use "non heating"
thermostat schedules that will allow the space to be satisfied without turning
on the hot water coils.  also in the hot water loop there is a snap
temperature.  set this to 120 or something high and the boilers and
attached equipment will never turn on.  <br>
<br>
also for the DOAS system with FCU equipment.  i have done exactly that and
gotten good results.  Start by setting all your FCU systems to have
OA-FROM-SYSTEM to the DOAS system and make sure that the DOAS system is
attached to a "dummy space."  this space doesn't need to have
walls or loads, just 1sqft of space and the correct thermostat schedules and it
should work just fine.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left'><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>2010/4/19 Grando, John <<a
href="mailto:JGrando@cosentini.com">JGrando@cosentini.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left'><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>You can just select it as it is and
then remove it in Detailed edit or set the heating level to something extremely
low (55F).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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</span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>John Grando</span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'> <span style='color:blue'>LEED AP</span>| <span
style='color:gray'>Mechanical Engineer</span></span></b><b><span
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<p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> tsea2005 [mailto:<a
href="mailto:tsea2005@163.com" target="_blank">tsea2005@163.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:56 AM <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> [Equest-users] How
to turn off hot water loop and how to make a FCU+DOAS system simulation</span><span
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10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Hi all:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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I am simulating a building which dosen't need heating via FCU,but in eQuest's
air-side system,there is the  4-pipe Fan coils with HW
heat. <img border=0 width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1031"
src="cid:__2@Foxmail.net"> I don't need heating so how can i
turn off the heat water loop in detailed interface mode</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Mincho"'>?</span><span
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10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>     Another
question is HOw to service the whole building with both FCU and DOAS?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left'><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Thank you so much!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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