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color=#0000ff size=2>I run into this problem often when modeling mechanical
spaces as their own shell. It seems that some of the zoning patterns in
the wizard ("one per zone" especially) can not handle some of the custom shapes
you may make and will not let you select them in the zone group screen. My
solution has been just to select the zone pattern you want, then select
"custom", then on the pop up screen select "keep previous zoning pattern", and
then hit done when the drawing screen pops up. You can then go to the zone
groups screen and be able to select it. This has always worked for me so I
think it should solve your error.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Equest-users] error
message: "ShellWiz has no validZnGrpWizchildren." --- too many
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<DIV>Let's try this..as I don't have much time today..</DIV>
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<DIV>Never try to name your files in the Wizard, as they will all be erased and
substitued with the THX1138 version of language (famous SF movie). And if you
try to change the .INP file while still in Wizard mode, they will also be
erased.</DIV>
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<DIV>When you get into the Detailed Edit mode, THEN you can make a space
"OFFICE-1" or CLASS-2, versus EL1 Ground Floor Core, as Gary intimated.</DIV>
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<DIV>Gary, I would need an example of what space you could not rename and
reassign. I have always been able to name and reassign spaces, zones, and HVAC
systems once in the Detailed Edit mode.</DIV>
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<DIV>I BELIEVE this naming nomenclature difficulty may be eliminated in the near
future...</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=558085119-13042010>I have received this error on several occasions by
screwing up the Zone Group Definitions Screen in the DD Wizard. (Screen
14)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=558085119-13042010>I have never liked eQuest's naming nomenclature, so I
have always renamed zone groups myself so that I can better keep track of what
is what. (e.g.. "Gym" as opposed to "EL1 Ground Floor Core")</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=558085119-13042010>If you delete all of the zone groups and then recreate
them with your own name, sometimes I experience being unable to assign the new
groups to spaces. When I click the mouse on a space, a context menu does NOT
appear as it normally does. In this case, I am "stuck" and cannot assign a zone
group to a space.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=558085119-13042010><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>My
experience has been that this error occurs much more commonly if you have
only one or two zone groups to assign to spaces.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=558085119-13042010><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Previous uses have already chimed in as to the solution... a manual edit
of the .pd2 file. Just thought I would give some background as to what I have
done in the past to cause the error.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=558085119-13042010><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Thanks,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>James
Hansen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 13, 2010 2:44 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Carol
Gardner; Richard Williams<BR><B>Cc:</B>
equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Equest-users] error
message: "ShellWiz has no validZnGrpWizchildren." --- too many
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'">Open up your
PD2 file and take a look around – the ZnGrpWiz command usually follows the
Dayshapes/Shapewiz commands for each shell, and directly precedes definition of
the custom zones for the shell.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'">Look thru
each shell, and see if some have them and some don’t…I don’t know why eQuest
wouldn’t automatically define this, but I’ve successfully messed around with the
PD2 file before without damaging anything. Make you can copy one of the
ZnGrpWiz commands from one shell to another and make sure to rename
accordingly.</SPAN></P>
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lot more important: that’s the “beginning” of the definition for each
shell. Open up the PD2 file and see if there are ANY shellwiz definitions,
and report back…</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">This sounds like an eQUEST
developer question. Hopefully one of them will be willing/able to take the time
to answer it.<BR><BR>Carol</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Richard Williams <<A
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<P class=MsoNormal>Dear all</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I have been building a model with a large number of shells. I
understand that this is not ideal but I have many overhangs and setbacks.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Once I reach about 60-70 shells a get the following error
messages:</P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>“ShellWiz has no valid ZnGrpWiz children.”</P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>“Error: No ShellWiz components exist.”</P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>“Error creating BDL input file from wizard inputs!”</P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>After these messages the model becomes unusable. Is this
likely to be a shell problem or perhaps something to do with the limitations of
running in wizard mode?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Any suggestions much appreciated.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Regards</P>
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