Sorry, meant to do a reply all.<br>Carol<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Carol Gardner</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cmg750@gmail.com">cmg750@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Date: Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:49 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Equest-users] error message: "ShellWiz has no validZnGrpWizchildren." --- too many shells?<br>To: <a href="mailto:Gary.Schrader@buildings.schneider-electric.com">Gary.Schrader@buildings.schneider-electric.com</a><br>
<br><br>I'm not surprised that you got "stuck". While I understand what you're trying to do I doubt the developers intended you to do anything like this in either Wizard. IMHO the "art" of using this program is to learn to do what you can as effectively as you can using the Wizards, and then get out. There are just some things that are just easier to do, and done better if you will, in the detailed data edit mode. <br>
<br>That's my 2 cents.<br><font color="#888888"><br>Carol</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:14 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Gary.Schrader@buildings.schneider-electric.com" target="_blank">Gary.Schrader@buildings.schneider-electric.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>I have received this error on several occasions by
screwing up the Zone Group Definitions Screen in the DD Wizard. (Screen
14)</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>I have never liked eQuest's naming nomenclature, so I
have always renamed zone groups myself so that I can better keep track of what
is what. (e.g.. "Gym" as opposed to "EL1 Ground Floor Core")</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>If you delete all of the zone groups and then recreate
them with your own name, sometimes I experience being unable to assign the new
groups to spaces. When I click the mouse on a space, a context menu does NOT
appear as it normally does. In this case, I am "stuck" and cannot assign a zone
group to a space.</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">My
experience has been that this error occurs much more commonly if you have
only one or two zone groups to assign to spaces.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Previous uses have already chimed in as to the solution... a manual edit
of the .pd2 file. Just thought I would give some background as to what I have
done in the past to cause the error.</font></span></div>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Thanks,</font></span></div>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James
Hansen<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 13, 2010 2:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> Carol
Gardner; Richard Williams<div><div></div><div><br><b>Cc:</b>
<a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] error
message: "ShellWiz has no validZnGrpWizchildren." --- too many
shells?<br></div></div></font><br></div><div><div></div><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Open
up your PD2 file and take a look around – the ZnGrpWiz command usually follows
the Dayshapes/Shapewiz commands for each shell, and directly precedes definition
of the custom zones for the shell.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Look
thru each shell, and see if some have them and some don’t…I don’t know why
eQuest wouldn’t automatically define this, but I’ve successfully messed around
with the PD2 file before without damaging anything. Make you can copy one
of the ZnGrpWiz commands from one shell to another and make sure to rename
accordingly.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Shellwiz
is a lot more important: that’s the “beginning” of the definition for each
shell. Open up the PD2 file and see if there are ANY shellwiz definitions,
and report back…</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">
<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Carol
Gardner<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:29 PM<br><b>To:</b> Richard
Williams<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Equest-users] error message: "ShellWiz has no valid ZnGrpWizchildren." --- too
many shells?</span></p></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">This sounds like an eQUEST
developer question. Hopefully one of them will be willing/able to take the time
to answer it.<br><br>Carol</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Richard Williams <<a href="mailto:Richard.Williams@arup.com" target="_blank">Richard.Williams@arup.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dear
all</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have been
building a model with a large number of shells. I understand that this is not
ideal but I have many overhangs and setbacks.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Once I reach about
60-70 shells a get the following error messages:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">“ShellWiz has no
valid ZnGrpWiz children.”</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">“Error: No
ShellWiz components exist.”</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">“Error creating
BDL input file from wizard inputs!”</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">After these
messages the model becomes unusable. Is this likely to be a shell problem or
perhaps something to do with the limitations of running in wizard
mode?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Any suggestions
much appreciated.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Regards</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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