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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Heather, your end results
pictured below are exactly the path I’m currently treading, and I am
hoping to find a more efficient/accurate way to pull this off for the future.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>A potential issue, as you’re
illustrating, is that “elbow” or “courtyard” situations
where the building perimeter is shaded on different orientations by the same
object sorta obviates the ideal case where we could really use the ability to
define a 3D object. Restricted only to 2D rectangular shades, intersecting
2 or more in a manner parallel to the shaded faces (as you’ve done) seems
the best compromise for the moment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The process I’m proposing
below, to (hopefully cleanly) import 2D polygon geometries and assign/reassign
them to be building shades is something I’d like to try given the time to
toy around with this further… you can count on me in any case to share
should I come up with a method that really seems to work =).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>As an illustration/teaser, here’s
something I threw together in 3.5 minutes (timed myself) using Sketchup after a
glance at Heather’s example. It would take me a nominal amount of
extra time to copy the same trees and scale them all around a site given a
landscaping plan to reference. Finding a bridge to import those crossed
2D polygon shapes into equest would be a great leap in modeling the effects of natural/manmade
site shading to a more sophisticated degree – if nothing else it might
save a good deal of time and look cool =). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";
color:#2D4D5E'>NICK CATON, E.I.T.</span></b><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>direct 913
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
Heather.Hardie-Hill@CH2M.com [mailto:Heather.Hardie-Hill@CH2M.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 02, 2010 12:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nick Caton; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Simple Building Shade Question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Nick,</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>I had the same issue a while back and never found a really good
solution. I believe that building shades are only defined by rectangles. I used
2 crossed rectangles (as shown below) and then assigned shading schedules
based on the types of trees they were. If you figure out a better way, PLEASE
SHARE!</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><strong><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'>Heather Hardie-Hill<o:p></o:p></span></strong></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><em><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:gray;font-style:normal'>CH2M HILL</span></b></em><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nick
Caton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 31, 2010 6:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Simple Building Shade Question</span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b>Simple Building Shade Question:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Can these be defined as polygons? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b>Bonus Question (or, where am I going with this?):<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Is it feasible to crunch a file containing only 2D shapes
through GBS to create an *.inp so we can be import these polygons/coordinates
in the correct format, which we could then assign to individual linked building
shades, subsequently defining a shading schedule?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>I wood tree-ly like to know (hint hint!!!)…<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>~Nick<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=119 height=37 id="Picture_x0020_1"
src="cid:image001.jpg@01CAD26F.602A05D0" alt="cid:489575314@22072009-0ABB"><b><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";
color:#2D4D5E'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";
color:#2D4D5E'>NICK CATON, E.I.T.</span></b><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:#CC9900'>PROJECT ENGINEER</span><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#CC9900'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>25501 west
valley parkway<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>olathe ks 66061<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>direct 913
344.0036<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>fax 913
345.0617<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>Check out
our new web-site @ </span></i><span style='color:#1F497D'><a
href="www.smithboucher.com" title="blocked::www.smithboucher.com"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>www.smithboucher.com</span></a></span><u><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'> </span></u><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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