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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Yuvaraj,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>In order for a modeling software
(i.e. eQuest) to be used for Title 24 compliance, it needs to be approved by
the California Energy Commission to do so. EQuest version 3.63b has been
approved for T24-2005, and version 3.64 has been <i>submitted</i> for approval
for T24-2008, but has not yet been approved. Basically, you can’t
use eQuest for compliance with T24-2008 (yet). HOWEVER, LEED 2009 references
T24-2005 so you <i>can</i> use it for your LEED submittal, but you still need
to show T24 compliance… You’re in a pickle, and there’s
no easy way around it. Hopefully 3.64 gets approved soon..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Best of luck, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Yuvaraj Saravanan
[mailto:Yuvaraj.Saravanan@arup.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 02, 2010 4:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> David S Eldridge; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org;
Heather.Hardie-Hill@CH2M.com; AndrewC@InterfaceEng.Com;
equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] [Bldg-sim] District Thermal Energy - LEED v3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Not to complicate the subject. One additional question in
this subject.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'>This project is in California.
Another USGBC guideline states that Title 24 – 2005 is equivalent
to ASHRAE 90.1-2004. LEED V3 also allows to use a Title 24 as baseline. So, if
I want to use Title – 24 as my baseline for the LEED purpose (to avoid
additional modeling) how do I do that? USGBC guideline for DES
“Required Treatment of District Thermal Energy in LEED-NC version 2.2 and
LEED for Schools” primarily talks about ASHRAE 90.1 in the step 2 when
changing systems. Any suggestion is greatly appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'>Yuvaraj<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David S
Eldridge<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 02, 2010 3:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] District Thermal Energy - LEED v3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I gave a presentation on this
subject in November and the v3 equivalent document was “coming any day
now” back then – I haven’t seen it yet, although I’m
pretty sure someone is working very hard on generating one. I
haven’t looked for it since then either. If not, you can probably
use the current Reference Guide along with the 2.2 DES document.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>At the time, there was this post
from Gail Hampsmire…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a
href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/pipermail/bldg-sim-onebuilding.org/2009-October/020350.html">http://lists.onebuilding.org/pipermail/bldg-sim-onebuilding.org/2009-October/020350.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>…suggesting you make
adjustments for EAP2, etc. I would assume this includes substitution of
the current energy codes for the prior ones when referring to your registered
project. I’m not sure if there will be other major changes to how
the comparisons are structured, or changes in the default DES efficiencies.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Also, will the DES plant be
included with one of the three certifications? Then at least you may only
have to guess for two of the projects!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>David<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Yuvaraj Saravanan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 02, 2010 5:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] District Thermal Energy - LEED v3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'>I am trying to do energy model
for 3 buildings in a campus. Each building is seeking separate LEED
certification. We have a new central plant with Ice storage which will serve
all three buildings. I have a USGBC guideline “Required Treatment
of District Thermal Energy<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'>in LEED-NC version 2.2 and LEED
for Schools” dated May 28, 2008, which discusses about how to carry out
the energy modeling. I am wondering is there a similar document for LEED
version 3. If there is no such document released by USGBC for version 3, then
if I follow the aforementioned document, the problem I have is, it reference
everything back to ASHRAE 90.1-2004 but LEED V3 follows 90.1-2007. Can anyone
guide me how to approach this situation?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'>Yuvaraj<o:p></o:p></p>
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