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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=310090919-03032010>Pasha,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri color=#0000ff><SPAN class=310090919-03032010>I tried
running your model as-is, and came up with a bunch of warnings re low
preheat/heating capacities. </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Calibri
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=310090919-03032010>I added preheat</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri color=#0000ff><SPAN class=310090919-03032010>along with
some humidity control for all the zones, and got the attached
output.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Calibri color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=310090919-03032010> </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri color=#0000ff><SPAN class=310090919-03032010>Maybe the
program was just not doing the heating voluntarily, and had to be forced
to.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri color=#0000ff><SPAN class=310090919-03032010>Hope this
helps,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=310090919-03032010>Umesh</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Pasha
Korber-Gonzalez<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 03, 2010 1:05 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
James Hansen<BR><B>Cc:</B> eQUEST Users List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Equest-users] No heating load to systems<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks James. I do have an additional HW loop pump...but I will
take a look at the thermostat schedule stuff.</DIV>
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<DIV>Pasha<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, James Hansen <SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">You might
need to add a hot water loop pump instead of just relying on a boiler
pump. See if that affects your heating energy consumption.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Also, your
zones don’t appear to have any thermostat schedules configured.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Thanks John--I hadn't input the reheat delta t, thinking
that it was one of those "blank" default auto-calc things.... so by
inputting a 30 deg delta, that took away the error in the bdl file, but the
results are still not showing any space heating consumption and yet somehow I
have 0.0 hours out of throttling range---I thought this had to be too good to
be true.</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I've attached the current .pd2 & .inp files I am
running. If you do have time to take a quick peak at my inputs...this
baseline file is based on Appendix G compliance. please note my
system names do not match the system selection I have for baseline
case.</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Thanks for your time and attention to give me a
hand.</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">Pasha</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:32 AM, John Aulbach <<A
href="mailto:jra_sac@yahoo.com" target=_blank>jra_sac@yahoo.com</A>>
wrote:</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Have you specified your Reheat-Delta-T for your zone VAV
boxes? Send the .INP and .PD2 if you require further help.</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Pasha Korber-Gonzalez <<A
href="mailto:pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com"
target=_blank>pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com</A>><BR><B>To:</B> eQUEST Users
List <<A href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org"
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March 3, 2010 9:28:30 AM<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Equest-users] No heating load to
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<P class=MsoNormal>Hi all,</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I thought I was wrapping up my baseline model and then for
some reason I discovered that the only heating energy being used is going
through the zone baseboards. When I take out the baseboards, the results
show a big fat ZERO for any space heating energy the DOE2 error shows
below. How can the design loads not get passed to the system. The
baseline systems are VAV with reheat, but for some reason there is no heat or
reheat unless I specify pre-heat (which there is none) or baseboards...
any ideas are appreciated--because I thought I was closer to finished with
this model until this issue popped up.</P></DIV>
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<P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">***ERROR***********************************************************************</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Loop: Hot Water
Loop has zero design flow.</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Check input for
consistency, or specify design
loads.</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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