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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=591170819-04122009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Yes, that is the correct place to find it. However,
The fan power that you get from your 90.1 calculation is the <U>total fan
power</U> for the system which includes associated supply, return, and
exhaust fans. I usually portion out that kW/CFM to each fan being
used in the design (if you have 0.00120 kW/CFM from calcs and you have
a supply and return that are equal, I put .00060 kW/CFM for each
fan). This is important because of
fan heat. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR><SPAN lang=en-us><B><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>John
Grando</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>LEED AP</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>| </FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=#808080 size=2>Mechanical Engineer</FONT></B></SPAN><BR><SPAN
lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Jason Wendel [mailto:jwendel@heatheng.com]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 04, 2009 1:48 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Amanda
Bogner'; 'Equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Equest-users] Appendix G Fan Simulation<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Ok,
so here’s the spreadsheet I set up to calculate the bhp with the pressure drop
allowances <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<TD
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; WIDTH: 99.8pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; HEIGHT: 31.5pt"
vAlign=bottom noWrap width=133></TD>
<TD
style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; WIDTH: 55.9pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 31.5pt"
width=75>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">From
eQuest<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; WIDTH: 231.35pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 31.5pt"
width=308 colSpan=4>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">From
Table 6.5.3.1.1B Fan Power Limitation Pressure Drop
Adjustment<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; WIDTH: 164.15pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 31.5pt"
width=219 colSpan=2>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">From
Table 6.5.3.1.1A Fan Power Limitation<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD></TR>
<TR style="HEIGHT: 78pt">
<TD
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vAlign=bottom noWrap width=65>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">System
#<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; WIDTH: 99.8pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 78pt"
vAlign=bottom noWrap width=133>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; WIDTH: 55.9pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 78pt"
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Calculated
CFM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
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vAlign=bottom width=62>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Ducted
Return (0.5)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; WIDTH: 58.85pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 78pt"
vAlign=bottom width=78>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Particulate
Filtration Credit: MERV 13 thru 15 (0.9)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; WIDTH: 64.85pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 78pt"
vAlign=bottom width=86>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Sound
Attenuation Section (0.15)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; WIDTH: 60.85pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 78pt"
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">"A"
(Table 6.5.3.1.1b)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Allowable
Fan System BHP (Table G3.1.2.9 also)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; WIDTH: 82.6pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 78pt"
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Allowable
Nameplate Motor hp (Table 6.5.3.1.1a)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD></TR>
<TR style="HEIGHT: 45pt">
<TD
style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; WIDTH: 48.8pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 45pt"
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">1<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; WIDTH: 99.8pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 45pt"
width=133>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Packaged
VAV System with HW Reheat<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; WIDTH: 55.9pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 45pt"
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">111,328<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; WIDTH: 58.85pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 45pt"
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">24.25<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; WIDTH: 64.85pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 45pt"
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">4.04<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; WIDTH: 60.85pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 45pt"
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">28.30<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="BORDER-RIGHT: #3f3f3f 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; BACKGROUND: #f2f2f2; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; WIDTH: 81.55pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: #3f3f3f 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 45pt"
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #3f3f3f; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">173.02<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P></TD>
<TD
style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; WIDTH: 82.6pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 45pt"
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">166.99<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD></TR>
<TR style="HEIGHT: 45pt">
<TD
style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; WIDTH: 48.8pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 45pt"
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">2<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; WIDTH: 99.8pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 45pt"
width=133>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Packaged
Multizone with HW reheat<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5.4pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; WIDTH: 55.9pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 45pt"
noWrap width=75>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">91,857<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">.
>From what you’re saying, do I not even bother with the bhp input in the wizard
mode, just set up the system and run the simulation, then calculate the kW/cfm
and put that in from the detailed mode? Do I use the total fan KW from the
SV-A output and the cfm from that output (shown below)?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Amanda Bogner
[mailto:amanda@bvm-engineering.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 04, 2009
11:40 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Jason Wendel<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Equest-users]
Appendix G Fan Simulation<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">You’ve indicated that
you’re using the BHP directly in eQuest. But, I think you need to take
this value and use the equations in G3.1.2.9 which will account for the fan
motor efficiency. It doesn’t appear from the information below that you’re
doing this step.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">From here, you’ll end
up with a fan power wattage. I usually divide this by the total supply air
and input it in the detailed mode as a kW/CFM value.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">If you would like to
send me your detailed calculations, I can have a more thorough look at it.
Specifically:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">what pressure drop
allowances are you able to take<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">what are you
calculating your ‘A’ value to be<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">can the pressure drop
allowance be applied to 100% of the air<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jason
Wendel<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 04, 2009 11:19 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
'Equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Equest-users]
Appendix G Fan Simulation<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Sorry
to rehash this but I’ve been going through the baseline fan power, and still
don’t have the answers I need.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I’ve
got a 113,000 cfm (from the SV-A System Design Parameters report) VAVR system on
my baseline that when I go through all the calculations for ASHRAE 90.1-2007
(from Table G3.1.2.9, Table 6.5.3.1.1a and b) I get 176.13 bhp. I
put that in the wizard entry for BHP for the VAVR system and don’t get any
errors, BUT when I put in the bhp that I solved for the packaged multi-zone
AHU’s that will be used in the building also (92,000 cfm, 153.88 bhp), using the
same calculations, it gives me an error that the static is at 56 in w.c., and it
needs to be below 15. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">What’s
going on? Also, if you use the equations from Table 6.5.3.1.1a and b, then
the break horsepower is higher than the allowable nameplate hp. Isn’t that
backwards?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Paul
Erickson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:39 AM<BR><B>To:</B> ron
lamarre; Matthew Higgins<BR><B>Cc:</B>
Equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Equest-users]
Appendix G Fan Simulation<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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to comment on your statement, “</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I believe that
the kW/CFM is based on the Baseline BHP and Baseline Fan Power formula in
ASHRAE 90.1-2004 G3.2.1.9. The CFM is the total building CFM”, 90.1-2007
makes it the most clear that the CFM is actually ONLY the Baseline’s peak SUPPLY
CFM. The same is true for 90.1-2004, it’s just not very clear.
However the reviewers do know that this is true and have most recently been
asking for a demonstration of calculation methodology.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>ron
lamarre<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 18, 2009 11:49 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Matthew Higgins<BR><B>Cc:</B>
Equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Equest-users]
Appendix G Fan Simulation<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Hi to
all:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I believe that
the kW/CFM is based on the Baseline BHP and Baseline Fan Power formula in
ASHRAE 90.1-2004 G3.2.1.9. The CFM is the total building CFM; see the
air-side summary report for the total bulding CFM.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">To get the correct
total building CFM, set the Baseline supply-air-to-room-air at a 20-degree F
differential. For instance, if your summer (cooling) set-point temp =
75 degreesF, then the cooling supply air temp from the unit is 55-degree
F. If your winter (heating) set-point temp is 70-degree F, then your
heating supply air temp from the unit is 90-degree F. Run a
simulation and eQUEST will determine the CFM for each system based on this
differential; then balance the systems to be under the 300 unmet hours
limit. Then open the air-side summary report to see the total
CFM of all your systems. Use that total CFM in the BHP and Baseline Fan
Power calculations under G3.2.1.9. To use the formulas, you need to use a
calculator with a "natural log" button and an "e" button for the energy constant
(e=1.28....just like "pie" = 3.14).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">For a Baseline Type 3
PSZ System, the fan power should be in the neighborhood of 0.0007; this may be
why GBCI questioned your result. Then assign this fan power to each
baseline PSZ system in your building and re-run the simulation. Include
the formula in the LEED submittal template or narrative to demonstrate how its
calculated; as well as including the Air-side Summary Report. GBCI will
see both the total baseline CFM and the baseline fan power
calculations.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">The Proposed
conditions are the proposed set-points, proposed supply air temps, and proposed
kW/CFM for each system as designed. If the RTU fans run continuously
during occupancy periods, separate the supply air fan power, which is the kW to
use, from the RTU power. This allows design teams to take credit for
using high efficient HVAC systems (low kW/CFM).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Hope this
helps.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Matthew Higgins
<higgins@edi-arch.com><BR><B>To:</B> "Equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org"
<Equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org>; BLDG SIM
<bldg-sim@gard.com><BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:12:10
PM<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Equest-users] Appendix G Fan Simulation<BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><BR>I've seen
multiple posts regarding 2004 Appendix G Fan Power and one post from Ming Zeng
suggested the following:<BR>"Baseline model fan usually gives
0.00078KW/cfm. For proposed fans, typically it is 0.00016-0.00018
KW/cfm/in static*"*<BR><BR>I have two problems related to this because my
Baseline KW/cfm is closer to 0.001 KW/cfm for a bunch of unitary Type-3 systems,
which is indefinitely way too high.<BR><BR>FIRST<BR>Many people have referred to
the calculated fan power as an allowance, which to me, would appear to be a
threshold not to exceed based on the 20deg-F delta for Appendix G Fan Sizing. I
figure this is not the case because others refer to the fan power as something
that is simulated in the model as a KW/cfm.<BR>I've also seen posts where
numbers are expressed as KW/kcfm, which would indicate fan power KW per thousand
cfm; which again is not an applicable figure for simulation using
eQuest.<BR><BR>SECOND<BR>I'm struggling with these items because a recent GBCI
reviewer has asked me to re-calculate my fan power because my BHPs are a bit
higher than they should be. When I "re-calculate" these values I do not come up
with the numbers they do (BHP ASHRAE - attached).<BR><BR>I'm trying to reconcile
my response and eQuest inputs before we re-submit, but I'm not sure what to
do.<BR><BR>Much thanks.<BR><BR>-- Matthew Higgins, LEED AP +
ASHRAE-HBDP<BR>Environmental Dynamics, Inc.<BR>Architecture and Sustainability
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