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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>John,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>At the moment, it&#8217;s up to the end-user to be sure your
baseline model is meeting the 90.1 minimum baseline criteria.&nbsp; If you
haven&#8217;t already checked it out, Appendix G explains how the model is to
be set up and calibrated to a level of performance (measured via unmet load
hours) that&#8217;s to be in the same ballpark as your proposed design.&nbsp;
If you apply all design criteria there into eQuest, then you&#8217;re following
90.1.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think you&#8217;re describing and hoping to find eQuest can behave
similarly to COMcheck and other &#8220;plug and chug&#8221; type compliance documentation
software.&nbsp; I had the same hopes when I first got into the program&#8230;&nbsp;
Over time though I&#8217;ve come to understand that 90.1 has so many
gray/interpretable areas that I&#8217;m not sure that a &#8220;push-button
baseline builder&#8221; is really a desirable thing for the task of energy
modeling.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Until the day comes when software developers are producing &#8220;intelligent&#8221;
energy modeling software that makes evaluative decisions as effectively as a
human being, I don&#8217;t think the task of &#8220;generate a baseline energy
model per 90.1&#8221; is even a feasible concept.&nbsp; Even if such a (complex)
feature was around to use, you&#8217;d still have to do a complete proposed
model for the baseline to reference for geometries/occupancies/zoning/etc &#8211;
building the baseline after that is not a huge relative investment of time in
my experience&#8230; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In summary, I don&#8217;t think effective/useful energy modeling
for 90.1-based compliance is conceptually possible without involvement from a
human that&#8217;s at least somewhat familiar with 90.1&#8217;s Appendix G &#8211;
it cannot be automated without a degree of accuracy loss that I think most
would find unacceptable.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>That&#8217;s not to say the process couldn&#8217;t be made
easier with eQuest (following is a suggestion with that in mind), and I
understand other &#8220;for-cost&#8221; energy modeling software do generate
compliance certificates of sorts for baseline/proposed LEED comparisons (or at
least the LEED template would lead me to believe this).&nbsp; My impression however
is that where the current evolution of eQuest can fall behind it&#8217;s &#8220;competition&#8221;
in cases regarding user-interface (though it&#8217;s definitely better than a
lot of what&#8217;s out there), it excels in breadth and depth of modeling
energy behaviors, and in a less measureable way because of the massive
community of professional energy modelers embracing and offering each other
support for the program through forums like this one.&nbsp; And of course, you
can&#8217;t beat free =).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>For the record, I do think a good &#8220;wishlist&#8221; item
for the coming versions of eQuest, to facilitate easier, more consistent and
less error-prone 90.1 baseline modeling for users of all experience levels, would
be to create a library of 8 systems for use during HVAC system wizard-level
definition (See attached screenshot/paint masterpiece for when/where/what I&#8217;m
thinking). &nbsp;These would define a set of defaults for one of the 8 standard
baseline systems, but would still require the end-user to determine project
specific wizard-level criteria (such as climate zone-specific economizer/high
limit requirements and such).&nbsp; I&#8217;ve noted that the recent 90.1-2007
and 90.1-2004 are identical in these definitions, so that lends some
consolation that such efforts would not become &#8220;out-of-date&#8221; for
some time to come.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>One last note: do be sure you&#8217;re using the latest version (3.63b)&#8230;
I&#8217;m observing after clicking &#8216;Help&#8217; &#8211;&gt; &#8216;About
eQUEST&#8230;&#8217; my installation of 3.63b contains the line &#8220;eQUEST,
version 3.63, build 6510,&#8221; if that helps you to verify.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Apologies for the wall of text &#8211; it&#8217;s a recurring
habit of mine&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";
color:#2D4D5E'>NICK CATON, E.I.T.</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";
color:#2D4D5E'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John
Wearstler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Equest Forum<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Equest Base Model vs. ASHRAE 90.1<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Hello All,<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>I am fairly new to using Equest. (version 3.63). In a 12
page overview, it indicates that future enhancements to Equest will include building
energy code compliance checking, initially: California Title 24 and later,
ASHRAE 90-1. When modeling the base building for comparisons, I think the goal
would be to enter data that allows the base to just pass the 90-1 criteria,
such as&nbsp;a minimum btuh/ square foot efficiency.&nbsp;This would permit the
greatest difference to be shown in a comparison. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>How does Equest control&nbsp;the base model to meet this
90-1 minimum?&nbsp;Is there a built-in data checking/ evaluation/ editing
mechanism or is it up&nbsp;to the user to enter the&nbsp;exact minimum value
data to show the base model just meeting 90-1?&nbsp;Are certain parts of the
Equest program calculating mechanism&nbsp;following&nbsp;90-1?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Thank you in advance,<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<br>
-- <br>
John Wearstler<br>
Senior Designer<br>
Larsen Engineering, Inc.<br>
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