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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I know there is some work on a document
to provide a framework for developers to implement automated (or even
semi-automated!) generation of base cases within their software for various
purposes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Keep an eye out for that, I&#8217;m
not sure of the current status or timing of it.&nbsp; Even prior to
implementation by any developers it will be a great resource for our community
when we make these comparisons manually.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>David<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>http://www.grummanbutkus.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nick
Caton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> jwearstler@larseneng.com; Equest Forum<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Equest Base Model vs. ASHRAE 90.1<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>At the moment, it&#8217;s up to the end-user to be sure your
baseline model is meeting the 90.1 minimum baseline criteria.&nbsp; If you
haven&#8217;t already checked it out, Appendix G explains how the model is to be
set up and calibrated to a level of performance (measured via unmet load hours)
that&#8217;s to be in the same ballpark as your proposed design.&nbsp; If you
apply all design criteria there into eQuest, then you&#8217;re following 90.1.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>&#8230;</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Until the day comes when software developers are producing
&#8220;intelligent&#8221; energy modeling software that makes evaluative
decisions as effectively as a human being, I don&#8217;t think the task of
&#8220;generate a baseline energy model per 90.1&#8221; is even a feasible
concept.&nbsp; Even if such a (complex) feature was around to use, you&#8217;d
still have to do a complete proposed model for the baseline to reference for
geometries/occupancies/zoning/etc &#8211; building the baseline after that is
not a huge relative investment of time in my experience&#8230; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In summary, I don&#8217;t think effective/useful energy modeling
for 90.1-based compliance is conceptually possible without involvement from a
human that&#8217;s at least somewhat familiar with 90.1&#8217;s Appendix G
&#8211; it cannot be automated without a degree of accuracy loss that I think
most would find unacceptable.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>&#8230;</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>For the record, I do think a good &#8220;wishlist&#8221; item
for the coming versions of eQuest, to facilitate easier, more consistent and
less error-prone 90.1 baseline modeling for users of all experience levels,
would be to create a library of 8 systems for use during HVAC system wizard-level
definition (See attached screenshot/paint masterpiece for when/where/what
I&#8217;m thinking). &nbsp;These would define a set of defaults for one of the
8 standard baseline systems, but would still require the end-user to determine
project specific wizard-level criteria (such as climate zone-specific
economizer/high limit requirements and such).&nbsp; I&#8217;ve noted that the
recent 90.1-2007 and 90.1-2004 are identical in these definitions, so that
lends some consolation that such efforts would not become &#8220;out-of-date&#8221;
for some time to come.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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