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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Jim,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I think the issue-at-hand here,
if I’m understanding correctly, is that there’s concern an internal wall
created by avoiding the footprint perimeter will simply use the defined
internal wall construction and transfer to/from the outside… I’m not certain
(and I haven’t tested this) that you want to answer “don’t care” without
verifying this isn’t the modeled behavior.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Crockett, Jim<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 11, 2009 1:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Aulbach; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Adjacent Shells<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Not sure. But if the set point on both sides of the wall is
the same, the heat transfer will be negligible. Short answer is ‘don’t
care.’<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:jra_sac@yahoo.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Crockett, Jim; Rocha, Sheri; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Adjacent Shells</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal>Will you get the internal heat ransfer between these walls?
Or will you care?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>John R. Aulbach, PE, CEM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> "Crockett, Jim"
<Jcrockett@nexant.com><br>
<b>To:</b> "Rocha, Sheri" <srocha@mkkeng.com>;
equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wed, November 11, 2009 9:28:33 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Adjacent Shells</span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>We accidentally stumbled onto a way of doing this.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>If the walls on the zoning tab do not line up with the walls on the
shell tab, they will show up as internal walls.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Example 1</span></u><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:navy'>Shell:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>(0,0) (100,0) (100,100) (0,100)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Zone:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:navy'>(1,1) (99,1) (99,99) (1,99)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>This will create a zone surrounded by 4 internal walls.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Example 2</span></u><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Shell:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>(0,0) (100,0) (100,100) (0,100)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Zone:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>(1,0) (99,0) (99,99) (1,99)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Will create a zone with 1 external wall ( on the south side) and 3
internal walls.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Hope this helps.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Jim</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rocha,
Sheri<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Adjacent Shells</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I am modeling a building with multiple wall types therefore
I have 3 shells per floor. I am trying to figure out how to have the
adjacent walls between shells be modeled as interior instead of exterior.
In one of spot they came out as interior, but I am not sure how I did it.
I am trying to do as much in the wizard as possible. Does anyone
know how to do this??<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for your help.<o:p></o:p></p>
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