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<DIV><SPAN class=424420216-05112009><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff
size=2>Alex,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=424420216-05112009><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=424420216-05112009><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff size=2>I'm
assuming the curtain wall system would be installed as an over-clad to the
existing punched windows, essentially creating a double-wall facade of
sorts? If not, simply create different window types in eQuest, one for the
curtain wall IGU and one for the single pane window. Existing opaque walls
and curtain wall spandrel panels are created as different opaque wall types.
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<DIV><SPAN class=424420216-05112009></SPAN><SPAN class=424420216-05112009><FONT
face=Univers color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=424420216-05112009><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff
size=2>Otherwise, y</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=424420216-05112009><FONT
face=Univers color=#0000ff size=2>ou might consider searching the lists for
double-wall facades, but as a first step, I would approximate the system as
follows:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=424420216-05112009><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=424420216-05112009><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff
size=2>Create a triple-glazed IGU for sections of the wall with the IGU and
existing single-pane windows;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=424420216-05112009><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff
size=2>Create a new opaque wall type for section of the wall with the IGU and
existing opaque wall with a blended U-value.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=424420216-05112009><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff
size=2>Something like this (pardon the crude MS Paint):</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=424420216-05112009><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=424420216-05112009><IMG
src="cid:424420216@05112009-16C7"></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=424420216-05112009>You
might not get the full impact of the continuous air gap between the two facades,
but you could play around with the width of that air gap to either make the
convective losses more or less pronounced depending on what your system actually
looks like. I believe that after an inch, the convective losses between
the two panes of glass begin to outweigh the insulating benefit of the
air.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=424420216-05112009></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=424420216-05112009>You
should pay close attention to how the curtain wall is fixed to the building to
properly account for thermal bridging of framing elements. I like Natural
Resources Canada's EE4 simulation tool for creating custom assemblies.
It's free and simple to use:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=424420216-05112009><A
href="http://canmetenergy-canmetenergie.nrcan-rncan.gc.ca/eng/software_tools/ee4.html">http://canmetenergy-canmetenergie.nrcan-rncan.gc.ca/eng/software_tools/ee4.html</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=424420216-05112009></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff
size=2><SPAN class=424420216-05112009></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=424420216-05112009>However, this method doesn't consider the
interactions of the two cladding systems when it comes to solar gains
and visible light transmittance very well. But if your project is in
a cold climate, thermal losses would be more important which I think this
method accounts for reasonably well.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=424420216-05112009>BTW,
what does this look like in elevation? Are there strips of spandrel
panels? You'll need to consider framing effects of horizontal mullions
too.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=424420216-05112009></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=424420216-05112009>Any
thoughts from the rest of the group?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=424420216-05112009></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=424420216-05112009>Cheers,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Alex Krickx
[mailto:akrickx@seriousmaterials.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 29,
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<P class=MsoNormal>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I’m trying to model a building in eQuest that has both
punched opening windows with single pane glass AND an IGU curtain wall.
The internal punched opening windows are existing, the curtain wall is
proposed. I’m using Optics5 and Window5 to get the R-value and SHGC for
the curtain wall, I’m just not sure how to accurately model a building with two
separate glazing systems. The goal of this exercise is to determine the impact
different glazing units in the curtain wall have on the building’s energy
consumption.<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I’ve included a section below showing the IGU on the left and
2 floors with punched opening windows on the right. Thanks in advance for
your assistance.<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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