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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Has anyone been successful in using this in conjunction with a
water-side economizer option selected on the air-side units? I had this working
in a model, but only after I turned off the water side economizer. I couldn’t
get the chiller (connected to both HW, CHW, and CW loops) to reject the
required heat to the hot water loop AND have any remaining heat rejected to a
tower. I definitely didn’t get to spend as much time with it as I would
have liked, but my initial results seemed to indicate this control option is
unavailable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony
Kriel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] eQUEST: Heat Recovery Chiller<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:navy'>If I were to setup another
heat recovery chiller I would use the following steps. If anyone would
like to add some comments or some additional steps, please feel free to do so.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:navy'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:navy'>Assumptions: You’re in detailed mode, and you have a water
cooled chiller setup with a chilled water loop, condenser water loop, and a hot
water loop.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:navy'><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:navy'>Create a new chiller. Type = Elec Heat Recovery<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:navy'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:navy'>Assign loops. CHW = Chilled Water Loop, CW = Condenser Water Loop,
HtRec = Hot Water Loop.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:navy'><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:navy'>Verify/input the EIR, equipment capacity, whether the chiller is at
Design or Rated conditions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:navy'><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:navy'>Change the chilled water temperature, condenser temperature, min
condenser temperature, and maximum het recovery setpoints if necessary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:navy'><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:navy'>Create/change EIR and Capacity curves if necessary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:navy'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:navy'>Tony Kriel</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#000066'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#000066'> Otto
Schwieterman [mailto:oschwieterman@fhai.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tony Kriel; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org.<br>
<b>Subject:</b> eQUEST: Heat Recovery Chiller</span><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#000066'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>Tony, have you figured out or received a step-by-step process for simulating a heat recovery system?<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>Thanks, Otto<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>______________________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>Tony-<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>When you define a chiller in eQuest, along with assigning the appropriate<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>CHW (and possibly CW and HW) there is also a loop assignment for "HtRec".<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>This takes either a HW, WLHP, or DHW Loop to which the chiller will attempt<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>to provide recovered heat to. There are some variables you will need to<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>fill in depending on how much heat you want to recover, etc...<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>If that doesn't answer your question, please let me know.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>Steve Mignogna<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>Atelier Ten<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre
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style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Tony Kriel <<a
href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org">tkriel at sustaineng.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre
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style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>><i> I know this has been asked once or twice before, but I haven’t had too<o:p></o:p></i></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>><i> much luck finding an appropriate archived response.<o:p></o:p></i></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>><i><o:p> </o:p></i></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>><i><o:p> </o:p></i></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>><i><o:p> </o:p></i></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>><i> Has anyone successfully modeled a heat recovery chiller in Equest that<o:p></o:p></i></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>><i> would reject heat to a domestic hot water loop and would like to share a<o:p></o:p></i></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>><i> step by step process for simulating such a system?<o:p></o:p></i></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>><i><o:p> </o:p></i></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>><i><o:p> </o:p></i></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>><i><o:p> </o:p></i></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>><i> Thanks,<o:p></o:p></i></span></pre><pre
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style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>><i><o:p> </o:p></i></span></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#000066'>><i> Tony Kriel, LEED AP<o:p></o:p></i></span></pre><pre
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