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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
think approach #1 meets the intent of Appendix G.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bishop,
Bill<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brett Fero; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Baseline Lighting Power/Schedule<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Hi Brett,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I agree with your interpretation (1.), below, for the baseline.
Then you apply the Table G3.2 power adjustment to the <i>proposed</i> building
for spaces that have occupancy sensors, as described in Table G3.1, No 6(g).,
using the same lighting schedule as the baseline but with the as-designed
lighting power.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Franklin Gothic Medium","sans-serif";
color:black'>William Bishop, EIT, LEED<sup>®</sup> AP </span></b><b><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>bbishop@pathfinderengineers.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>www.pathfinderengineers.com</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Webdings;
color:green'>P</span><span style='color:green'> </span><span style='font-size:
7.5pt;color:green'>Please strive to live sustainably.</span><span
style='color:green'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brett
Fero<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Baseline Lighting Power/Schedule</span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>I would like the opinions of others regarding the
interpretation of the Baseline Building Performance Lighting of Table G3.1 in
Appendix G.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Table G3.1, Item 6.  Baseline Lighting, last sentence
states the following;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>“No automatic lighting controls (e.g. programmable
controls or automatic controls for daylighting utilization) shall be modeled in
the baseline building design, as the lighting schedules used are understood to
reflect the mandatory control requirement in this standard.”<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>I am questioning 2 ways to interpret this in the
model.  I will use a 10,000 sf office building with typical business hours
of operation  from 8 am to 6 pm.  Most spaces are required to have
automatic lighting controls as specified in the Mandatory Provisions of Section
9.4 (ASHREA 90.1).<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=msolistparagraph0 style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      
</span></span><![endif]> The Baseline lighting schedule would typically
ramp up starting at maybe 6 am, dip for lunch, and ramp down until maybe 8
pm?  The maximum power density would be that allowed using the
space-by-space method and Table 9.6.1 in ASHRAE 90.1.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=msolistparagraph0><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=msolistparagraph0 style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      
</span></span><![endif]>The Baseline lighting schedule would ramp up starting
at maybe 6 am, dip for lunch, and ramp down until maybe 8 pm (typical
scheduling)?  The maximum power density would be that allowed using the
space-by-space method and Table 9.6.1 in ASHRAE 90.1. with the 10% Power
Adjustment factor of Table G3.2 applied to the lighting demand of spaces
required to have mandatory controls of Section 9.4.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=msolistparagraph0><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>I have typically used option 1 without question from the
USGBC which increases savings, but was wondering how others have interpreted
it.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Are occupancy sensors  “programmable
controls” – delay time?<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Brett Fero, P.E., LEED AP<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

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