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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Seun,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Good question, and I’m copying
the user list to complete my original response to Rick.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You do not need to have a boiler
or chiller as long as you have the appropriate meters created and assigned to
your loops. The meter, in effect, becomes the primary equipment for its loop.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>However, you <i>do</i> have to
have a pump created for each loop. If the proposed design does not include
pumps downstream of the meter, you may want to put them on a separate electric
meter so that you can back the energy out of the totals. Or, if they’re the
only pumps in the project, you can simply neglect the “pump/aux” end use from
EM1’s results. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I have attached two screen shots
from a sample project to demonstrate the above. “Purchased 01” is the
Water-Side tab with the appropriate meters and pumps assigned to each loop, and
“Purchased 02” shows the corresponding Utility & Economics tab. This is
the bare minimum setup for the simulation to run without errors.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 17, 2009 2:42 PM<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Dakota,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>I read your reply to Rick concerning modeling purchased
steam in eQuest. I have a similar building for which I need to model purchased
steam and chilled water. I have followed the procedures that you detailed in
your email to Rick but have a couple additional questions. When I create the
Steam loop, do I have a add a boiler to the loop? Will eQuest perform the
simulation if the steam loop does not have an attached boiler? And for the
purchased chilled water, do I have to attach a chiller to the chilled water
loop? When I tried to run the simulation with a chilled water loop and no
chiller, I get a message saying that the simulation was stopped due to errors.
When I add a chiller to the loop, however, it seems to run the complete
simulation. Thank you in advance for your help.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Dakota Kelley <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 14, 2009 3:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'YinRic'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Equest User<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] Purchased Heat<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Rick,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I wouldn’t go with no heating;
you can model this scenario directly in eQUEST: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Make sure you have your steam loop created, then create a steam meter
under “Utility & Economics”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Assign the meter to your steam loop when prompted<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Create a utility rate of type “steam” and make sure it is set to
serve your steam meter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Set up block charges for different times of the year to create
your steam rate. For the three months that have a fixed rate, you could
create a block with $0/unit and define a minimum $5,000 charge (steam rate
properties…Min/Max Charges tab…Fixed Chrgs ($/mon) column). Set the min
to $0 or whatever it should be for the other 9 months. Note that for a
steam meter, you can define the Btu/billing unit under the steam meter’s
Properties/Basic Specifications tab.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Creating the rate schedule will
be the hardest part, but it’s not that difficult. The process is also
well-documented in Volume 2 of the supporting documentation. The way I
would do it is:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> YinRic
[mailto:cesseric@hotmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 14, 2009 12:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Equest User<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Purchased Heat<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Hi,<br>
<br>
In a project to go for LEED, in winter, the heat source is steam purchased
from public utility company with fixed rate, say, $5,000/month in
spite of the real heating demand, how to simulate this in Equest? ASHRAE
90.1-2004 stated that "For systems using purchased hot water or steam, hot
water or steam costs shall be based on actual utility rates, and on-site
boilers shall not be modeled in the baseline building design." Is it
feasible to choose "no heating" in the proposed case and do some simple
calculation instead, say, $5,000/month*3 month=$15,000, to generate a result? <br>
Any comments are welcome. Thanks.<br>
<br>
Rick, PE, LEED AP<br>
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