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Thanks Bill. The actual overall window-facade ratio is as high as 66%. The owner targeted a 500lx artificial lighting level in office area without considering natural lighting. I already advised considering daylighting especially since most of the rooms start working at 9am and close at 5pm. Since this office building (over 50,000 sqm) will be open for rent, owner is still hesitate with daylighting sensor installation, because companies which rent the building may not like such sensors...<BR>
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Subject: RE: [Equest-users] Fully Variable Frequency System Modeling<BR>Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:54:16 -0400<BR>From: bbishop@PathfinderEngineers.com<BR>To: cesseric@hotmail.com<BR><BR>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>YinRic<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:05 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> cam@energyopportunities.com; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Equest-users] Fully Variable Frequency System Modeling</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Hi Cam,<BR> <BR>Your warning helps. I aware the difficulty and will for sure advice the owner to invest more in good windows and frames. Thanks!<BR> <BR>Best Regards,<BR><FONT color=#444444><SPAN style="COLOR: #444444">Rick</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#444444><SPAN style="COLOR: #444444">, PE</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#444444><SPAN style="COLOR: #444444">, LEED AP</SPAN></FONT><BR> </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">From: cam@energyopportunities.com<BR>To: cesseric@hotmail.com<BR>Subject: RE: [SPAM] [Equest-users] Fully Variable Frequency System Modeling<BR>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:54:13 -0400</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Afraid I can’t exactly help, but I do have a warning. Appendix G (assuming you are LEED-NC v2.2 or later) requires that the baseline building be modeled with no more than 40% vertical fenestration. It is likely you will need more sophisticated strategies (chilled beam, for instance) to achieve the minimum 14% (2 points) cost savings. It would seem crucial that the project invest in good windows, especially the frames! Good luck …</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>YinRic<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:47 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [SPAM] [Equest-users] Fully Variable Frequency System Modeling</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><FONT face=Verdana color=#444444 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Hi, </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><FONT face=Verdana color=#444444 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><FONT face=Verdana color=#444444 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Could anyone kindly help me to make some sense about how to model fully variable frequency air-conditioning system? In this system, most of the components on the water side are fully variable, including chiller, pump and cooling tower. These components work together to make the system operate under "optimized" condition. This is gonna be a LEED project...The envelope is poor, full glass curtain. Lighting system does not have better energy performance compared with the Baseline either. Some "advanced techniques" must be figured out on HVAC side...</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><FONT face=Verdana color=#444444 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Any comments are appreciated. </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><FONT face=Verdana color=#444444 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Best Regards,</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=#444444 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Rick</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana color=#444444 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">, PE</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana color=#444444 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">, LEED AP</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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