John-<br><br>You do NOT model any surrounding building in the Baseline model. In fact, you don't take into account any type of shading benefits in the Baseline model.<br><br><br>-- <br>Steve Mignogna<br>Atelier Ten<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Vikram Sami <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:VSami@lasarchitect.com">VSami@lasarchitect.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Appendix G requires that you make all walls non-shading surfaces so I'm pretty sure you don't model the surrounding buildings for your baseline<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> on behalf of John Aulbach<br>
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Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Building rotations<br>
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I am unsure of LEED, but I will bet you cannot use the surrounding building shading for just the complicated reasons you mention. I did a LEED Base Case of a building built into the side of foothills. When I rotated the building for the other directions, I left the undeground parts right where they were, essentially rotaing the foothills.<br>

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Otherwise, people might get "fancy" with shading.<br>
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My impression of the USGBC approach is that they are trying to "level playing field" approaches such as this.<br>
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--- On Fri, 6/19/09, Grando, John <<a href="mailto:JGrando@cosentini.com">JGrando@cosentini.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> From: Grando, John <<a href="mailto:JGrando@cosentini.com">JGrando@cosentini.com</a>><br>
> Subject: [Equest-users] Building rotations<br>
> To: "<a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>><br>
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> am working on a building in New York City and it is<br>
> surrounded by much higher buildings.  Are we allowed to<br>
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> It seems like the other buildings should be taken into<br>
> account considering that this building is around 80% glass<br>
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