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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I agree with David S Eldridge. I was told this at an ASHRAE
sponsored seminar for exceeding the requirements of Standard 90.1-2007.
The speaker was on the revisory committee. If any addendum is used (i.e.
Addendum a), then all aspects of that addendum must be applied consistently throughout
for LEED. The USGBC must also be notified. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David S
Eldridge<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 23, 2008 3:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Glazing distributed uniformly in horizontal
bands<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I believe the wording is for the
entire single addenda – you don’t have to use a and b to use c, but
if c has three parts you have to use all three.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>“if a project team elects to
use <b><u>an</u></b> addendum to an ASHRAE standard, this addendum must be
applied to the entire LEED submittal”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve
Mignogna<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bishop, Bill<br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Glazing distributed uniformly in horizontal
bands<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Bill-<br>
<br>
I found this CIR, which should help to clarify whether or not you can use the
addenda. It seems like you should be fine with using just that one part
of the addenda.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b>20/2007 - </b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b>Credit Interpretation Request</b><br>
The intent of this credit is to "Achieve increasing levels of energy performance
above the baseline in the prerequisite standard to reduce environmental and
economic impacts associated with excessive energy use."<br>
<br>
The requirements of Option 1 of this credit are as follows:<br>
- Demonstrate a percentage improvement in the proposed building performance
rating compared to the baseline building performance rating per ASHRAE/IESNA
Standard 90.1-2004 (without amendments) by a whole building project
simulation using the Building Performance Rating Method in Appendix G of the
Standard.<br>
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<br>
Table G3.1, number 5.c. in Appendix G of the Standard concerns vertical
fenestration. <br>
<br>
The baseline requirement is as follows:<br>
- Vertical fenestration areas for new buildings and additions shall equal
that in the proposed design or 40% of the gross above-grade wall area,
whichever is smaller, and shall be distributed uniformly in horizontal bands
across the four orientations.<br>
<br>
The exception that we would like to take is as follows:<br>
- The intent of the baseline requirement is to encourage thoughtful fenestration
orientation and glazing percentage of a building that results in energy
savings. The Project is an exception to this approach.<br>
- The facility exists for the purpose of sports viewing. The field-side
glazing exists in order for the facility to function as intended.<br>
- The exterior walls of concessions, restrooms, and other ancillary spaces
typically do not have glazing. Concessions and restrooms are typically
semi-heated only. Modeling the baseline with glazing distributed over the
concessions and restrooms doesn't seem to meet the intent of the Standard.<br>
- We would like to model the baseline building performance and the proposed
building performance with the same vertical fenestration-the actual building
fenestration. We ask that this exception is made for the project. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b>Ruling</b><br>
The baseline and the proposed design can be modeled with the windows
distributed around the building as in the proposed design. The baseline
cannot have more than 40% window area as a percentage of total wall area. As
posted on the USGBC website, project teams can use addenda in the most recent
Supplement to the ASHRAE standards (see <a
href="http://www.usgbc.org/ShowFile.aspx?DocumentID=2664">http://www.usgbc.org/ShowFile.aspx?DocumentID=2664</a>).
Addendum A documents this change.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Steve Mignogna<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Bishop, Bill <<a
href="mailto:bbishop@pathfinderengineers.com">bbishop@pathfinderengineers.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Steve,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I believe you are referring to the Addenda a – G4.1c to ASHRAE
90.1-2004. I have not reviewed all of the ASHRAE addenda, and the USGBC
requires an ASHRAE addendum to be applied to the entire LEED submittal (per
this document <a href="http://www.usgbc.org/ShowFile.aspx?DocumentID=2664"
target="_blank">http://www.usgbc.org/ShowFile.aspx?DocumentID=2664</a>), so I
have been sticking to 90.1-2004 without addenda. If anyone has an opinion on
whether or not to use the addenda for LEED, please share.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>However, I also am doing modeling for New York State Executive Order 111,
which requires me to use the modeling requirements from the Energy Conservation
Construction Code of New York State (ECCCNYS). New York apparently has not
gotten the "uniform distribution not required" memo.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Is there a list of all the DOE-2 commands somewhere? It would be helpful for
deciphering my .pd2 file.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Bill<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Steve Mignogna
[mailto:<a href="mailto:smignogna@gmail.com" target="_blank">smignogna@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bishop, Bill<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Glazing distributed uniformly in horizontal
bands</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Bill-<br>
<br>
The uniformly distributed requirement has been changed. You do not need
to do that anymore. As long as you have under 40% glazing you will not need to
change the area or locations of your glazing. Hope that helps.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Steve Mignogna<br>
Atelier Ten<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Bishop, Bill <<a
href="mailto:bbishop@pathfinderengineers.com" target="_blank">bbishop@pathfinderengineers.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>All,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I want to
modify the windows in an existing model so that they meet the
uniformly-distributed requirement. I'm trying to do this in the wizard, and I
know I will lose data from the detailed edit mode, which I will deal with.
However, I already used the "custom window/door placement" tab, and
this seems to override my desire to use the % window method. How do I
"undo" the custom windows/doors? Modify the .pd2 file?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Bill</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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