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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=221220420-06102008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I forgot about that 25% presumption. The
template has a check but of course the calculation is
hidden.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=221220420-06102008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=221220420-06102008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I would want to assume it is simply prorating the cost
by consumption for each fuel stream, summing all process
costs, and then dividing by sum of all the fuel costs.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=221220420-06102008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=221220420-06102008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>But in playing with it, I have convinced myself that the
template calculation is flawed by ignoring some fuel streams in some
instances. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=221220420-06102008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Specifically I suspect it is </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=221220420-06102008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>ignoring fuel
streams that have no process energy component but I am not going try to debug a
formula I cannot see.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=221220420-06102008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=221220420-06102008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>If you or anyone else can verify some funny behavior or
just an inability to duplicate their calc, please let me know and we can write
the USGBC. If it is under flagging projects, the right thing to do is to
draw it to their attention.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=221220420-06102008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Paul Riemer</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Josh Greenfield
[mailto:JGreenfield@primerachicago.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 06,
2008 3:01 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Paul Riemer<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Re:
[Equest-users] eQuest $$ Reports and LEED<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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Calibri?,?sans-serif?;color:#1F497D?="">Thanks Paul…I have all the newer
templates…so are they allowing us to show the 25% process cost of overall cost
compliance for the baseline model via consumption instead of cost
now?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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Arial?,?sans-serif?;color:#1F497D?="">Josh </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "
Arial?,?sans-serif??=""><ns0:place><ns0:City><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">Greenfield</SPAN></ns0:City><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">, </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt"><ns0:State><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">PE</SPAN></ns0:State></ns0:place></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "
Arial?,?sans-serif?;color:#1F497D?="">, LEED AP</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "
Arial?,?sans-serif?;color:#1F497D?=""><BR>Senior Associate<BR>Primera
Engineers, Ltd.<BR></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "
Arial?,?sans-serif??=""><ns0:Street><ns0:address><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">100 S. Wacker Drive, Suite
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style="COLOR: #1f497d"><BR></SPAN><ns0:place><ns0:City><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">Chicago</SPAN></ns0:City><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">,
</SPAN><ns0:State><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">IL</SPAN></ns0:State><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN><ns0:PostalCode><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">60606</SPAN></ns0:PostalCode></ns0:place><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d"><BR>312.606.0910 </SPAN><ns0:place><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">Main</SPAN></ns0:place><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d"><BR>312.242.6392 Direct<BR>312.606.0415
Fax<BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d"><A
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "
Arial?,?sans-serif?;color:green?="">Be Green...please consider the environment
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Tahoma?,?sans-serif??="">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: " Tahoma?,?sans-serif??=""> Paul Riemer
[mailto:Paul.Riemer@dunhameng.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 06, 2008
1:36 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Josh Greenfield; Karen Walkerman<BR><B>Cc:</B>
equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Re: [Equest-users]
eQuest $$ Reports and LEED<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "
Arial?,?sans-serif?;color:blue?="">EAc1 submittal tables, including 5 & 6,
in the LEED-NC 2.2 Reference Guide are obsolete. I suggest looking at
the current template samples on the USGBC website. They no longer
have costs by end use.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "
Arial?,?sans-serif?;color:blue?="">I am not aware of a detailed convention
to divide out energy costs from a complex utility rate across end
uses. I suggest winging it and then massaging it so it does not
send the wrong message, like showing a client cost savings on a fuel
stream that has no energy savings.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "
Tahoma?,?sans-serif??="">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: " Tahoma?,?sans-serif??="">
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Josh
Greenfield<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 06, 2008 1:13 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Karen Walkerman<BR><B>Cc:</B>
equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Equest-users]
eQuest $$ Reports and LEED</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Karen…thanks for the response…ES-D and ES-E are still
overall costs and do not break the costs out into sub-categories (lights,
task lights, space cooling, etc.) like BEPS and BEPU do…do you know of any
reports that do a sub-categorized cost break-out?<o:p></o:p></P>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">Josh
<ns0:place><ns0:City><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">Greenfield</SPAN></ns0:City><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">, </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt"><ns0:State><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">PE</SPAN></ns0:State></ns0:place></SPAN>, LEED
AP<BR>Senior Associate<BR>Primera Engineers,
Ltd.<BR><ns0:Street><ns0:address><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">100 S. Wacker
Drive, Suite 700</SPAN></ns0:address></ns0:Street><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d"><BR></SPAN><ns0:place><ns0:City><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">Chicago</SPAN></ns0:City><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">, </SPAN><ns0:State><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">IL</SPAN></ns0:State><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">
</SPAN><ns0:PostalCode><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">60606</SPAN></ns0:PostalCode></ns0:place><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d"><BR>312.606.0910 </SPAN><ns0:place><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">Main</SPAN></ns0:place><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d"><BR>312.242.6392 Direct<BR>312.606.0415
Fax<BR></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d"><A
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<P class=MsoNormal>Be Green...please consider the environment before
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<P class=MsoNormal><B>From:</B> Karen Walkerman
[mailto:kwalkerman@gmail.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 06, 2008
12:06 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Josh Greenfield<BR><B>Cc:</B>
equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Equest-users]
eQuest $$ Reports and LEED<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">ES-D and
ES-E<BR><BR>--<BR>Karen<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Josh Greenfield <<A
href="mailto:JGreenfield@primerachicago.com">JGreenfield@primerachicago.com</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P>I know that the BEPS and BEPU .sim file reports will give me consumption
data, but is there a standardized report, or even a way to create a
customized report that will make eQuest output a simulation into a format
similar to Tables 5 or 6 in the EAc1 section of LEED-NC, with respect to
cost values? This particular project I am having issues with is using
an On-Peak/Off-Peak rate structure, so I cannot simply multiply the
consumption data by a fixed utility rate. Am I missing a report that
already exists with this information? Thanks for the help.
<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Josh Greenfield, </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">PE, LEED AP</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR>Senior Associate<BR>Primera Engineers,
Ltd.<BR>100 S. Wacker Drive, Suite 700<BR>Chicago, IL 60606<BR>312.606.0910
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