[Equest-users] DOE2.3 Water Loop HP

Riley, Evan P Evan.Riley at MasonandHanger.com
Tue Sep 3 04:35:26 PDT 2024


I have run into this problem as well. In no case was I able to control multiple boilers on a water loop serving heat pumps. Similar error as you are reporting. Tested the multi-boiler setup (with equipment controls and load management) on a hot water loop serving heating coils and it worked fine. My workaround ended up being a spreadsheet calculation to determine the composite efficiency of the multiple boilers, based on running them on a hot water loop in a different model, and applying that to the single water-loop boiler. Not very satisfying but I had to move on.

Evan Riley PE, BEMP, LEED AP BD&C
Sr. Energy Engineer, Building Sciences Studio | Mason & Hanger
O 804.822.3008


From: David S Eldridge <deldridge at grummanbutkus.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 10:32 PM
To: Tai Lieu <tailieu at gmail.com>; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] DOE2.3 Water Loop HP

Is there a set of conditions where the staging ends up with a blank and no equipment is enabled? What’s the temperature profile on that day compared to the rest of the year for your weather file – maybe there is temperature that exceeds your staging commands.

How many different boilers and boiler efficiency combinations are there? I’d also consider running with a simplified boiler setup without the load management until the rest of the model is complete and calibrated and then layer in the extra boilers and their staging.

David


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From: Equest-users <equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org<mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>> On Behalf Of Tai Lieu via Equest-users
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2024 8:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [Equest-users] DOE2.3 Water Loop HP


Hi All,

Long time subscriber appreciate all the responses.
I'm working on a residential distributed heat pump building.  I'm using the WLHP keyword for the loop.  There are boilers with different efficiencies, that i have staged on and off based on capacity and outside air temperature, using the load management and Equipment control tools for the heating on the WLHP.  However I keep running into issues in June 16.  I'm having a hard time debugging the problem since the program stops on the certain date.  The error code is below.

I don't think its a heating boiler issues.  I'm unsure if i'm missing any keywords for the WLHP, I typically work in Doe2.2.  i've specified cooling equipment control for the cooling towers.  Let me know if I need to share the .inp.
Thoughts?

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TL





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