[Equest-users] WSHP Capacity Greater Than 90.1 Table 6.8.1

David Eldridge DEldridge at grummanbutkus.com
Tue Sep 18 09:11:02 PDT 2018


What's the system mapping for the building type and size? The baseline may not even have WSHP, or the mapping should yield a smaller system selection that does apply somewhere in the 6.8 tables.


David


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Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 10:51:15 AM
To: Nicholas Caton; equest-users at onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] WSHP Capacity Greater Than 90.1 Table 6.8.1

Nick:

Thanks for the information.  These WSHP are AAON SA-065-S-C units.  I am waiting for the designer to send me the performance information.

So if there is no efficiency rating for this size unit, should the baseline be modeled with the same efficiency as the proposed model?

Regards,

Paul Diglio
87 Fairmont Avenue
New Haven, CT 06513




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Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: [Equest-users] WSHP Capacity Greater Than 90.1 Table 6.8.1

I’d fall back to 6.4.1.1 under the mandatory provisions for the prescriptive compliance path – that’s the section citing the 6.8 series tables for the purpose of establishing prescriptive compliance.  As I’m reading/interpreting, equipment that is not listed categorically within the 6.8-series tables by extension does not need to achieve any minimum performance rating.  There is however some complementary text there you’ll want to review carefully to see if anything applies to your situation.

One extra thought:  Is it possible you’re dealing with a 60-ton WSHP package, comprised of a combination of smaller heatpumps?  In that scenario it may be easier using the individual heatpump capacity ratings to find something that fits the prescriptive mold, so to speak.

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Hi All:

I am looking at a project based on 90.1-2010.  The capacity of the WSHPs are 60 tons.  90.1-2010 Table 6.8.1B does not list the minimum efficiency of WSHP over 135,000 bBtu/Hr.


Any ideas on how to select the minimum efficiency of a similar system for the baseline?



Thank you,

Paul Diglio
87 Fairmont Avenue
New Haven, CT 06513


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