[Equest-users] LEED DES Guidelines: Process Chilled Water and Steam

Javed Iqbal via Equest-users equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Sat May 27 23:56:32 PDT 2017


Hello,

Recently, we have completed one million sq.mt Industrial Building LEED
compliance modeling which has been awarded with 16.5% overall energy cost
savings. I would share some of the learning on process load part:

   - Check CIR ID: 10237 <http://in.usgbc.org/content/li-10237>-
   Manufacturing Unit - Process dominant CIR- Modelling Strategies- This gives
   some guidance on how to model process part and take savings in the
   industrial facility
   - In the above mentioned project, there were manufacturing
   machines supplied with 35 MWc of cooling load which is process load
   separate from Building comfort requirements. This has been done by
      - by creating process chillers as designed in Proposed and as per
      ASHREA 90.1 in Base case
      - Kept the load, schedule same in both cases and savings should be
      claimed only on the performance parameters (COP, w/gpm for pumps
and gpm/hp
      for cooling towers etc.)
   - To arrive at correct schedule, we conducted some interviews with the
   existing plant personnel and tried to get some operational profile of the
   running facility. We then finally made some calculations and assumptions to
   arrive at *would be* schedule for the process machines.
   - The project had 15MW of process heating via hot water. The same was
   also been supplemented with 5 MW of waste heat recovery from industrial Air
   Compressor to provide heat. To claim this, proposed case was set up as per
   design case and Base was accordance with the ASHRAE 90.1 requirements. The
   waste heat recovery was directly modelled in the simulation program (E+)
   where priority was given to the Air compressor waste heat availability and
   remaining from the boilers.
   - The above project has been done in EnergyPlus. Interestingly i have
   also completed similar kind of project in past in eQuest though 1/10 of the
   built-up area compared to above. In eQuest, you could create chilled water
   loop and assign process load as gpm and load; i guess.

This doesn't address all of your queries but this might give you some
directions to proceed further with.

I hope other experts might chime in to enlighten us more on this.

Good luck!!

On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Michael Mantai via Equest-users <
equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org> wrote:

> I have a very large and complex energy modeling project, and anyone who
> has tackled any of these issues and might offer some feedback would be
> appreciated.
>
>
>
> The project includes a complex of manufacturing buildings that is pursuing
> LEED certification (BD+C version 2009).  Individual buildings are pursuing
> certification.  Cooling is provided by a central chilled water plant, which
> is part of the project and also one of the buildings seeking
> certification.  Heating is provided by a CHP that is on the complex but is
> not part of the project and being built and operated by the local utility
> company.  I have done several projects with district cooling and heating
> and know how to treat that using the LEED DES Guidance.
>
>
>
> Complicating this, though, is that a significant portion of the energy use
> is process steam and process chilled water.  Process steam is from the same
> CHP.  Process chilled water is from a separate process chilled water loop,
> with the chilled water equipment housed in the same chilled water plant
> providing HVAC cooling.  The LEED DES Guidance does not explicitly state
> that the guidance applies to process loads, nor could I find any
> interpretations or guidance on how to treat process loads that are served
> by district energy plants.
>
>
>
> Complicating the chilled water side is the fact that some of the process
> chilled water comes off the HVAC chilled water loop, and both the HVAC and
> process loop chillers utilize the same condenser water system, but I’m not
> even prepared to think about how to account for that yet.  For most of the
> buildings, I need to use LEED DES Option 1 anyway, which of course ignores
> the plants, because trying to eke out the minimum 10% energy savings for
> LEED will be the biggest challenge with the process load so high.
>
>
>
> My initial thought was to put the process steam and process chilled water
> as constant loads on the energy model steam and chilled water meters, and
> applying the same rate as HVAC chilled water and steam as I am using based
> on the LEED DES guidelines.  The problem is the chilled water energy cost
> is higher using this method than accounting for the electrical use of the
> plant, and I am getting no savings from the improved efficiency of the
> process chilled water plant or the CHP.  My hope is to model the process
> chilled water system to demonstrate energy savings and also claim some
> steam energy savings from the CHP (hindering me is the fact that the CHP
> modeling is excluded from our scope of work so I don’t have a lot of
> information on it).
>
>
>
> If anyone has any guidance based on experience with the following specific
> questions, I would appreciate it:
>
>
>
> -Any known published guidance on treating process loads served by district
> thermal plants for LEED certification.
>
> -Has anyone tried to model a process chilled water plant?  I have a huge
> thermal load cooled by the process chilled water system, but at the moment
> have no type of schedule or load profile so if I try to model the plant it
> will run at constant load 24/7.  I am also not sure how to place the
> thermal load into the buildings in eQuest.  I know how to add a natural gas
> thermal load, but not a steam load.  My thought was to add the process
> steam load as a natural gas load into a dummy zone in each building, set
> the natural gas utility rate to zero, set up a chilled water HVAC system
> served by my process chilled water loop to cool the dummy zone housing this
> load, and then set that HVAC unit fan energy use to zero to try and model
> the process chilled water consumption without adding electricity and gas
> consumption.  Any ideas on a better way to model this?
>
> -The LEED DES Guidance Option 2 requires achieving 6 points minimum to use
> the option.  But there is an exception for buildings pursuing LEED that
> actually house the thermal plant.  My chiller plant building applies,
> however my chiller plant also receives steam from the CHP, which would seem
> to maybe negate the use of the exception.  Has anyone ever had this
> situation?
>
> -As I mentioned modeling of the CHP is outside our scope, but it would
> help if I could claim some savings in process steam energy cost between
> baseline and proposed. If I can show enough savings in process steam, I
> might be able to hit the minimum 6 LEED points that allow me to use Option
> 2 and account for savings back at the plants, but I’m not sure how to claim
> this without modeling the CHP.  Has anyone claimed energy savings from a
> CHP that was not modeled?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Equest-users mailing list
> http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org
> To unsubscribe from this mailing list send  a blank message to
> EQUEST-USERS-UNSUBSCRIBE at ONEBUILDING.ORG
>
>


-- 


Javed Iqbal, LEED AP, CEA
Sr. Energy Analyst
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.onebuilding.org/pipermail/equest-users-onebuilding.org/attachments/20170528/5d22bdd3/attachment-0004.htm>


More information about the Equest-users mailing list