[Equest-users] Boiler Curves in Library

Tue Jan 10 05:47:14 PST 2017

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I am comparing some of the information in the PG&E study with the algorithms described in the DOE2 Engineer’s manual. I am confused about how the MIN-RATIO variable is used. It seems like the engineer’s manual states that the equipment only cycles on/off when the load drops below MIN-RATIO, but it also states that the part load performance curves account  for cycling (pg. v.10):

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For a single stage boiler then, what is the MIN-RATIO doing if all of the part load performance is already attributed to cycling?

The graph of “Unit 1” performance in the PG&E study (pg. 40) closely matches the performance curve from the Atmospheric-Blr-HIR-fPLR curve in the library. “Unit 1” is a single stage boiler, so all part load performance would occur from cycling. What would the best curve be to simulate the part load performance of a modulating non-condensing boiler?

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From: erik.kolderup at gmail.com [mailto:erik.kolderup at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Erik Kolderup
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 1:15 PM
To: Brad Painting <Bpainting at fstrategies.com>; equest-users <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Boiler Curves in Library

Doesn't directly answer your question, but this report by Taylor Engineering and PG&E discusses the DOE2.2 boiler curves and compares to measured boiler performance: http://www.etcc-ca.com/sites/default/files/OLD/images/boiler_research_project_-_ats-te_final_report_pcb_05092012.pdf.

-Erik

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On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Bishop, Bill via Equest-users <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org<mailto:equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>> wrote:
Hi Brad,
I don’t know how the default boiler curves were developed, but…
It is easy enough to create custom curves based on manufacturer performance data, which is available for many boiler models.
There are other inputs that affect simulated fuel consumption in eQUEST besides the boiler HIR-FPLR curve and full-load HIR, including MIN-RATIO and STANDBY-TIME. If the boiler part-load ratio is below the MIN-RATIO, there are cycling losses based on the STANDBY-TIME. The MIN-RATIO is usually known based on the boiler model but I don’t think I’ve seen published numbers on cycling losses sufficient to calculate STANDBY-TIME. But I have adjusted the defaults when calibrating a model to known fuel consumption.
The ASHRAE Handbook has some reference material. S32.6 is on boiler efficiency and includes an efficiency curve for a modulating boiler, showing efficiency improving slightly at part loads (instead of degrading) “from the increase in the ratio of heat exchanger surface area to heat input as the firing rate is reduced”. F19.12 Boiler Model provides some fundamental research and lists references if you want to dig into it further.

Regards,
~Bill

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From: Equest-users [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org<mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>] On Behalf Of Brad Painting via Equest-users
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 9:02 AM
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Subject: [Equest-users] Boiler Curves in Library

Can someone direct me to where I can find an explanation of how the part-load boiler curves were developed? I can find the formula coefficients for the heat-input ratio in the BDLLIB.dat file and an explanation of how to apply them in the DOE2 Engineer’s Manual. But how were the formulas and coefficients developed? Are they based on some study results described somewhere in the documentation? I am seeing very little part-load degradation in performance using the forced draft curve and I was wondering why. Thanks.

Brad Painting
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