[Equest-users] ASHRAE 90.1 baseline HVAC system interpretation

Wed Jan 11 05:30:17 PST 2017

Hello Beran,

I agree with Christopher, 

I have done this before and had no problems,

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De: Equest-users [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] En nombre de Chris Jones via Equest-users
Enviado el: viernes, 16 de diciembre de 2016 04:20 p.m.
Para: Beran Gurtekin Celik <beran at buildingintelligencegroup.com>
CC: equest-users at onebuilding.org
Asunto: Re: [Equest-users] ASHRAE 90.1 baseline HVAC system interpretation

My usual interpretation in this type of situation is that the café will have occupants when the gym is unoccupied and I apply the exception – one system for the Gym and one system for the café. 

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Subject: [Equest-users] ASHRAE 90.1 baseline HVAC system interpretation

Hi all,

I am puzzled with the interpretation of Ashrae 90.1-2007 G3.1.1 where is says each floor shall be modeled with a separate HVAC system. 

My proposed building is a 4 story office building with 3 floors office and a first floor consisted of cafeteria, kitchen and gym. Office floors have one system per floor and the first floor has three systems for each specific area. My baseline is using system 6 for the typical office floors. I am trying to interpret the G3.1.1 for the first floor. If I combine all those areas into one system their occupancy schedules, HVAC schedules, OA rates etc are all different and if I use one system, the schedules will not match the proposed. The kitchen qualifies for exception b due to thermal loads, so I will use a single zone system for that area. I am wondering how I should approach the gym and cafeteria. Can I use two systems in the baseline for those areas? They do not fall into exception b since their schedules and loads do not differ significantly from other spaces (office spaces) but they do differ from each other and using one system for those two different usage areas brings the dilemma of using a different schedule from the proposed building. 

Any insights will be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Beran

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