[Equest-users] App G Baseline CHW Pump Power
Christian Kaltreider
ckaltreider at sudassociates.com
Mon Nov 25 12:26:04 PST 2013
Yes, that lays it out pretty clearly. 22 W/GPM system total.
I wonder if future 90.1 versions will prevent gaming of the system (intentional or not) by offering guidance on power allocation among pumps?
Thanks for the helpful replies,
Christian
From: Bishop, Bill [mailto:bbishop at pathfinder-ea.com]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 2:11 PM
To: Joe Fleming; 'Christian Kaltreider'; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: RE: [Equest-users] App G Baseline CHW Pump Power
Christian,
Confirming what Joe says, an ASHRAE interpretation <https://www.ashrae.org/File%20Library/docLib/StdsInterpretations/IC-90-1-2007-14.pdf> clarified that 22W/gpm is the total power of all baseline CHW pumps.
Regards,
Bill
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From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Joe Fleming
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 2:07 PM
To: 'Christian Kaltreider'; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] App G Baseline CHW Pump Power
Almost certain that the GBCI interprets it as a whole system divvy, not each pump with 22W/GPM.
Regards
Joe Fleming | PE, LEED AP BD+C, BEMP
Commissioning Agent / Energy Modeler | The Spinnaker Group
561.602.3132 | joe at thespinnakergroupinc.com
From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Christian Kaltreider
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 2:01 PM
To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Equest-users] App G Baseline CHW Pump Power
Hello,
In November 2010, around the same time someone was modeling a building that looked like a turkey, there was a conversation on this list about baseline CHW pump power:
http://lists.onebuilding.org/htdig.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org/2010-November/006941.html
Part of the discussion was some back and forth about how to apply G 3.1.3.10. This section calls for baseline pump power to equal 22W/GPM and for the CHW pumping configuration to be primary/secondary. Some had the opinion that each pump (primary and secondary loops) should have 22 W/GPM assigned to it, while others thought that the total CHW pump system power should sum to 22 W/GPM, and that it was up to the modeler to divvy up the power among pumps as they see fit. I did not see a clear conclusion.
Does anyone know if a general consensus was reached?
Thanks,
Christian
Christian Kaltreider, LEED AP | Energy Analyst
Sud Associates, P.A. | T 828.255.4691 | F 828.255.4949 | www.sudassociates.com
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