[Equest-users] fishpond

Arpan Bakshi arpanbakshi at gmail.com
Thu May 3 08:55:03 PDT 2012


We had a recent project with exterior fish ponds looking at their effect on microclimate. Any experience w/ this condition?


Arpan

On May 3, 2012, at 11:46 AM, "Mike Hupel" <mhupel at aegiseng.ca> wrote:

> Bill beat me to it.  Your ventilation load would be calculated as if it were a natatorium using total surface area, temperature and evaporative rates. Then once you get that information you can model the ventilation rates and make-up. 
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> From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Bishop, Bill
> Sent: May-03-12 11:33 AM
> To: Cristian Salvador Jara Toro; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] fishpond
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> You can model it but you will need to calculate the latent and sensible loads yourself, at least if you are using eQUEST. Without having experience with fishponds, I would approach it like a natatorium (indoor swimming pool) and use the ASHRAE Handbook – HVAC Applications Chapter 5 for design guidance and loads calculations. Also, see this article: http://hpac.com/humidification-dehumidification/simplified-calculating-evaporation-1011/ for alternate method of calculating evaporation loads. Based on your drawings, I would also research state-of-the-art for aquaculture facilities, as that looks to be what you are designing.
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> From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Cristian Salvador Jara Toro
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:15 AM
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> Sorry, but I meant "design" instead of "model"... because I don´t think to model a room with water in it be possible...
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> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Cristian Salvador Jara Toro <cristian.jara.toro at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I have to model a room with a fishpond (more like close to a several fountains where fishes will be inside). WxLxH=9x13x2.5 in meters.
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> So, what I need to know is about ventilation rates for a room like that, wich contains water and fishes swimming in it, but my worry is about condensations, so if anybody has some paper or standard, please let me know.
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> Thanks in advance...
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