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--></style></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Germán,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>We’re definitely at an inflection point, and it’s impossible to predict where things are heading. We may be simultaneously underrating, and overrating the potential. I’ve considered LLMs as part of my collection of time-saving hacks. I’m probably one of the slower-to-adopt group though.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Whilst AI is now here to stay, many (including me) believe that it’s a bubble – commercially speaking. Data centre development is ecologically and commercially unsustainable. There’s weird ownership relationships between the main players (nvidea, Microsoft). The returns diminish, and people are losing trust.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I do need to clarify the point regarding <b>escrow</b>. My proposal is that the model is held in trust – not necessarily that every model is audited. You only need to audit enough models to deter malpractice, or if there is a dispute. This is more like source-code escrow than other forms of legal escrow.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Bldg-sim <bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Germán Campos via Bldg-sim<br><b>Sent:</b> 11 December 2025 18:50<br><b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Bldg-sim Digest, Vol 216, Issue 3<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p>A very interesting debate.<br>In my view, the real challenge is not that AI could fabricate LEED documentation (after all, a human modeller can also choose to manipulate a report) but rather that AI has the potential to automate the entire workflow from start to finish. That would fundamentally change the value proposition of our profession.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Regarding the idea of placing model input files in escrow, I’ve always felt that the main barrier isn’t technical but practical: having full access to inputs would require reviewers to engage at a much deeper level and would inevitably expose a far greater number of modelling errors than current review processes are designed (or resourced) to handle. We have all seen highly questionable models pass review with relative ease.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Improving this would unquestionably benefit good modellers, but it would also require a significant shift in how certification review is structured and funded. That’s why AI raises important questions: if automation makes it easier to produce polished reporting, then verifiable modelling practices and transparent data become even more essential to protect the integrity of the process.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Best,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Germán<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>El jue, 11 dic 2025 a las 0:54, <<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-request@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim-request@lists.onebuilding.org</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Send Bldg-sim mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/bldg-sim-onebuilding.org" target="_blank">http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/bldg-sim-onebuilding.org</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim-request@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-request@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim-owner@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-owner@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Bldg-sim digest..."<br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: cheat-gpt (Richard Sapwell)<br> 2. Re: cheat-gpt (<a href="mailto:chris.malcolm.yates@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.malcolm.yates@gmail.com</a>)<br><br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Richard Sapwell <<a href="mailto:richardmsapwell@gmail.com" target="_blank">richardmsapwell@gmail.com</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:chris.malcolm.yates@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.malcolm.yates@gmail.com</a><br>Cc: Bill Bishop <<a href="mailto:William.J.Bishop@imegcorp.com" target="_blank">William.J.Bishop@imegcorp.com</a>>, Karen Walkerman <<a href="mailto:kwalkerman@gmail.com" target="_blank">kwalkerman@gmail.com</a>>, David S Eldridge <<a href="mailto:deldridge@grummanbutkus.com" target="_blank">deldridge@grummanbutkus.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@onebuilding.org</a><br>Bcc: <br>Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2025 10:47:28 +1100<br>Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] cheat-gpt<o:p></o:p></p><div><p style='margin:0cm'><span style='font-size:37.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>👍</span><span style='font-size:37.5pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm'>Richard Sapwell reacted via <a href="https://www.google.com/gmail/about/?utm_source=gmail-in-product&utm_medium=et&utm_campaign=emojireactionemail#app" target="_blank">Gmail</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 at 08:36, <<a href="mailto:chris.malcolm.yates@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.malcolm.yates@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Dear all,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I’m very grateful for everyone’s thoughts. Speaking of LMs I’ve opened a NotebookLM on this thread, by copying the text and pasting it in as a source. It gave this summary, and a nice little mind map:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#131314;background:white'>The provided text consists of an email chain from December 2025 among building simulation professionals discussing the <strong><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>existential threat and ethical risks posed by Large Language Models (LLMs) and generative AI</span></strong> to their industry, specifically focusing on energy modelling and certification processes like LEED. <strong><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Chris Yates initiates the discussion</span></strong> by questioning the value of modelling professionals if AI can easily generate seemingly legitimate reports and outputs, suggesting solutions like tying design models to building operation calibration and placing model input files in escrow. <strong><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Other contributors elaborate on the dangers of fabricated documentation</span></strong> and the erosion of human decision-making, with <strong><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Bill Bishop proposing ethical mandates</span></strong> such as requiring human review and clear identification of all AI-assisted content. <strong><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Karen Walkerman highlights the actual value of human modelers</span></strong> in providing design feedback and building calibration, while <strong><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Richard Sapwell reinforces the need for human expertise</span></strong> in regulatory interpretation and systems thinking to move beyond easily commoditised paperwork. Collectively, the emails explore how to <strong><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>safeguard professional value by reinforcing verifiable modelling practices</span></strong> against the rise of sophisticated automated reporting.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I hope loading your contributions into NotebookLM is OK with you all. Please let me know if you want them removed, or if you want me to share it with you… it even generated a podcast!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Bill Bishop <<a href="mailto:William.J.Bishop@imegcorp.com" target="_blank">William.J.Bishop@imegcorp.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> 10 December 2025 16:25<br><b>To:</b> Karen Walkerman <<a href="mailto:kwalkerman@gmail.com" target="_blank">kwalkerman@gmail.com</a>>; Chris Yates <a href="mailto:chris.malcolm.yates@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.malcolm.yates@gmail.com</a>; David S Eldridge <a href="mailto:deldridge@grummanbutkus.com" target="_blank">deldridge@grummanbutkus.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Bldg-sim] cheat-gpt</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>There may be no way to put the AI genie back in the bottle at this point. The temptation is growing larger every day to wish for more wishes.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>We tell ourselves that we’ll only use AI to do grunt work like report writing. Next, we’ll extend that to templates that help auto-generate model inputs, and model geometry. We’ll upload project drawings to our AI agents to generate more model inputs. Of course those project drawings will be generated by AI to some extent, and a larger extent over time. We’ll use AI to auto-populate model input and output tables to facilitate report writing. At every step along the way, there will be less human decision making and less human review of assumptions – and less need to hire and train new professionals and maintain professional credentials. Five years from now, design firms will simply prompt the building-generative AI: “Design an office building large enough for 150 employees, at least two stories but no more than eight, to be built at the corner of Elm Street and Asimov Ave. Base it on the architectural style of Gehry but with more windows. Use all-electric building systems. Optimize for maximum on-site renewable energy generation.” The AI will generate the drawing set and specs but the design won’t accommodate 150 employees because the HR-AI told the Design-AI that the Management-AI will be recommending layoffs.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sure, we can do damage control by proposing specific new requirements for some types of projects, but there are many applications of energy modeling and we should strive for adopting some simple, elegant, universal language and limitations governing AI use that can be applied to all energy modeling projects. All professions should be developing and adopting revised ethical codes to limit the real and perceived short- and long-term damage to the value our professions provide. Some ideas for sample language:</span><o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>All design decisions will be made by humans.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>All content and deliverables that have been created with AI assistance will be clearly identified as such.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>All AI-generated content and deliverables will be reviewed for accuracy by humans consistent with standard QA/QC procedures.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>QA/QC procedures will be performed by humans without AI-assisted autocorrections.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>~Bill</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:8.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>William Bishop</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>, PE, CEM, LEED AP, ASHRAE (BEMP, BEAP, CDP)</span><span lang=EN-US><br></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Associate Principal | Project Executive | Sustainability & Energy</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:8.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>[Human-generated. 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Description automatically generated"></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Bldg-sim <<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Karen Walkerman via Bldg-sim<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 10, 2025 9:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> Chris Yates <<a href="mailto:chris.malcolm.yates@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.malcolm.yates@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] cheat-gpt</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:solid #9C6500 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:#FFFF99'><strong><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:#9C6500;background:#FFFF99'>External Email: </span></strong><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;background:#FFFF99'>Treat links and attachments with caution.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>This is very timely... We're giving a webinar next Wednesday, Dec 17th at 12pm EST where we discuss our AI approach (and share the EP3 AI integration). </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US><a href="https://ep3.solutions/webinarsignup/" target="_blank">https://ep3.solutions/webinarsignup/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>I firmly believe that the value of energy modeling lies in the ability of modelers to provide feedback at the SD, CD and value-engineering stages of a project, and as a tool to catch building operation issues if a model calibration is completed. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Other than delivering LEED points, a lot of LEED models don't deliver true value to the project, but that is where projects have a budget for modeling. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>With EP3, the goal is to provide one tool that allows modelers to easily provide design feedback and develop the final model for LEED, incentive, or code compliance. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>We'll be discussing all of it on Wednesday - come join if you're interested </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Karen </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>On Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 14:44 Chris Yates via Bldg-sim <<a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi there,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Just a philosophical one; maybe even an existential one <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>😐</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Given LLMs’ “autocorrect on steroids” abilities, what risk do we see ourselves exposed to as modelling professionals?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Let’s give an example…<o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'>A full LEED application including reports, unmet load tables, “error” reports. <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'>Not based on modelling – all reports and outputs generated with LLMs.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I think it would be relatively easy to do this, and present something that would stand up to review.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I think this poses the following questions:<o:p></o:p></p><ol start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'>If our main value offering can be replaced with auto-complete, what is the value of what we’re doing, anyway?<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'>How can we improve the value?<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'>How can we protect that value?<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I’d like to propose some solutions:<o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo4'>Tie Design stage models into the Operation of the building – calibrate<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo4'>Rather than just submitting reports, place model input files into <b>escrow</b> with GBCI (or their local equivalent)<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Controversial?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Chris<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>_______________________________________________<br>Bldg-sim mailing list<br><a href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/bldg-sim-onebuilding.org" target="_blank">http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/bldg-sim-onebuilding.org</a><br>To unsubscribe from this mailing list send a blank message to <a href="mailto:BLDG-SIM-UNSUBSCRIBE@ONEBUILDING.ORG" target="_blank">BLDG-SIM-UNSUBSCRIBE@ONEBUILDING.ORG</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <<a href="mailto:chris.malcolm.yates@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.malcolm.yates@gmail.com</a>><br>To: "'Bill Bishop'" <<a href="mailto:William.J.Bishop@imegcorp.com" target="_blank">William.J.Bishop@imegcorp.com</a>>, "'Karen Walkerman'" <<a href="mailto:kwalkerman@gmail.com" target="_blank">kwalkerman@gmail.com</a>>, "'David S Eldridge'" <<a href="mailto:deldridge@grummanbutkus.com" target="_blank">deldridge@grummanbutkus.com</a>>, "'Richard Sapwell'" <<a href="mailto:richardmsapwell@gmail.com" target="_blank">richardmsapwell@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: <<a href="mailto:bldg-sim@onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@onebuilding.org</a>><br>Bcc: <br>Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2025 21:36:07 -0000<br>Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] cheat-gpt<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Dear all,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I’m very grateful for everyone’s thoughts. Speaking of LMs I’ve opened a NotebookLM on this thread, by copying the text and pasting it in as a source. It gave this summary, and a nice little mind map:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#131314;background:white'>The provided text consists of an email chain from December 2025 among building simulation professionals discussing the <strong><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>existential threat and ethical risks posed by Large Language Models (LLMs) and generative AI</span></strong> to their industry, specifically focusing on energy modelling and certification processes like LEED. <strong><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Chris Yates initiates the discussion</span></strong> by questioning the value of modelling professionals if AI can easily generate seemingly legitimate reports and outputs, suggesting solutions like tying design models to building operation calibration and placing model input files in escrow. <strong><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Other contributors elaborate on the dangers of fabricated documentation</span></strong> and the erosion of human decision-making, with <strong><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Bill Bishop proposing ethical mandates</span></strong> such as requiring human review and clear identification of all AI-assisted content. <strong><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Karen Walkerman highlights the actual value of human modelers</span></strong> in providing design feedback and building calibration, while <strong><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Richard Sapwell reinforces the need for human expertise</span></strong> in regulatory interpretation and systems thinking to move beyond easily commoditised paperwork. Collectively, the emails explore how to <strong><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>safeguard professional value by reinforcing verifiable modelling practices</span></strong> against the rise of sophisticated automated reporting.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I hope loading your contributions into NotebookLM is OK with you all. Please let me know if you want them removed, or if you want me to share it with you… it even generated a podcast!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Bill Bishop <<a href="mailto:William.J.Bishop@imegcorp.com" target="_blank">William.J.Bishop@imegcorp.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> 10 December 2025 16:25<br><b>To:</b> Karen Walkerman <<a href="mailto:kwalkerman@gmail.com" target="_blank">kwalkerman@gmail.com</a>>; Chris Yates <a href="mailto:chris.malcolm.yates@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.malcolm.yates@gmail.com</a>; David S Eldridge <a href="mailto:deldridge@grummanbutkus.com" target="_blank">deldridge@grummanbutkus.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Bldg-sim] cheat-gpt</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>There may be no way to put the AI genie back in the bottle at this point. The temptation is growing larger every day to wish for more wishes.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>We tell ourselves that we’ll only use AI to do grunt work like report writing. Next, we’ll extend that to templates that help auto-generate model inputs, and model geometry. We’ll upload project drawings to our AI agents to generate more model inputs. Of course those project drawings will be generated by AI to some extent, and a larger extent over time. We’ll use AI to auto-populate model input and output tables to facilitate report writing. At every step along the way, there will be less human decision making and less human review of assumptions – and less need to hire and train new professionals and maintain professional credentials. Five years from now, design firms will simply prompt the building-generative AI: “Design an office building large enough for 150 employees, at least two stories but no more than eight, to be built at the corner of Elm Street and Asimov Ave. Base it on the architectural style of Gehry but with more windows. Use all-electric building systems. Optimize for maximum on-site renewable energy generation.” The AI will generate the drawing set and specs but the design won’t accommodate 150 employees because the HR-AI told the Design-AI that the Management-AI will be recommending layoffs.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sure, we can do damage control by proposing specific new requirements for some types of projects, but there are many applications of energy modeling and we should strive for adopting some simple, elegant, universal language and limitations governing AI use that can be applied to all energy modeling projects. All professions should be developing and adopting revised ethical codes to limit the real and perceived short- and long-term damage to the value our professions provide. Some ideas for sample language:</span><o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=m6671570842474723524msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo5'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>All design decisions will be made by humans.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=m6671570842474723524msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo5'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>All content and deliverables that have been created with AI assistance will be clearly identified as such.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=m6671570842474723524msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo5'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>All AI-generated content and deliverables will be reviewed for accuracy by humans consistent with standard QA/QC procedures.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=m6671570842474723524msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo5'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>QA/QC procedures will be performed by humans without AI-assisted autocorrections.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>~Bill</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:8.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>William Bishop</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>, PE, CEM, LEED AP, ASHRAE (BEMP, BEAP, CDP)</span><span lang=EN-US><br></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Associate Principal | Project Executive | Sustainability & Energy</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:8.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>[Human-generated. 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Description automatically generated"></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Bldg-sim <<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Karen Walkerman via Bldg-sim<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 10, 2025 9:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> Chris Yates <<a href="mailto:chris.malcolm.yates@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.malcolm.yates@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] cheat-gpt</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:solid #9C6500 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:#FFFF99'><strong><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:#9C6500;background:#FFFF99'>External Email: </span></strong><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;background:#FFFF99'>Treat links and attachments with caution.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>This is very timely... We're giving a webinar next Wednesday, Dec 17th at 12pm EST where we discuss our AI approach (and share the EP3 AI integration). </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US><a href="https://ep3.solutions/webinarsignup/" target="_blank">https://ep3.solutions/webinarsignup/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>I firmly believe that the value of energy modeling lies in the ability of modelers to provide feedback at the SD, CD and value-engineering stages of a project, and as a tool to catch building operation issues if a model calibration is completed. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Other than delivering LEED points, a lot of LEED models don't deliver true value to the project, but that is where projects have a budget for modeling. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>With EP3, the goal is to provide one tool that allows modelers to easily provide design feedback and develop the final model for LEED, incentive, or code compliance. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>We'll be discussing all of it on Wednesday - come join if you're interested </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Karen </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>On Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 14:44 Chris Yates via Bldg-sim <<a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi there,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Just a philosophical one; maybe even an existential one <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>😐</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Given LLMs’ “autocorrect on steroids” abilities, what risk do we see ourselves exposed to as modelling professionals?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Let’s give an example…<o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo6'>A full LEED application including reports, unmet load tables, “error” reports. <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo6'>Not based on modelling – all reports and outputs generated with LLMs.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I think it would be relatively easy to do this, and present something that would stand up to review.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I think this poses the following questions:<o:p></o:p></p><ol start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo7'>If our main value offering can be replaced with auto-complete, what is the value of what we’re doing, anyway?<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo7'>How can we improve the value?<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo7'>How can we protect that value?<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I’d like to propose some solutions:<o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo8'>Tie Design stage models into the Operation of the building – calibrate<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo8'>Rather than just submitting reports, place model input files into <b>escrow</b> with GBCI (or their local equivalent)<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Controversial?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Chris<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>_______________________________________________<br>Bldg-sim mailing list<br><a href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/bldg-sim-onebuilding.org" target="_blank">http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/bldg-sim-onebuilding.org</a><br>To unsubscribe from this mailing list send a blank message to <a href="mailto:BLDG-SIM-UNSUBSCRIBE@ONEBUILDING.ORG" target="_blank">BLDG-SIM-UNSUBSCRIBE@ONEBUILDING.ORG</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Bldg-sim mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">Bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/bldg-sim-onebuilding.org" target="_blank">http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/bldg-sim-onebuilding.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=1 height=1 style='width:.0104in;height:.0104in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="https://mailfoogae.appspot.com/t?sender=aZWNvZWZpY2llbnRlQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ%3D%3D&type=zerocontent&guid=b0c791f4-0bc9-46e4-86e8-13bcb954f273"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Gadugi",sans-serif;color:white'>ᐧ</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>