<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Hi Madhav,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">I believe there was enough inference to confirm it was option B, through all the replies received on this. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">In Canada, depending on different provinces/jurisdictions, we optionally or mandatorily need to report TEDI for the project. The TEDI reporting however is only for heating due to envelope and ventilation. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">I would like to take the opportunity to introduce the concept of TEDI optimization through parametric modeling, which we have started offering for projects in Canada. I believe this can be very useful for every project pursuing stringent TEDI targets, as the optimization feature on parallel coordinates can potentially save a lot on capital costs. In one of our most recent small multi-unit residential projects admeasuring just a 20,000 sqft building, the targeted TEDI range was achievable through options that differed by up to $175,000 in their capital costs, enabling the design team to find out the most cost-optimized TEDI for the design (see attached image). Note that our process is not algorithm based, but each unique simulation is actually set up and run on IESVE to derive the results. I am sure the process can save 10's to 100's of thousand dollars, depending on the size of the projects. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">We typically use our optimization process for whole building KPI optimization (cap/op cost, % energy/GHG savings, ROI, etc) which includes parametric modeling of all the predetermined energy-impacting design variables like walls, roof, floor, window, WWR, infiltration, lighting, HVAC, ERV. Each variable is attributed with its cost metric, to calculate the absolute capital cost for each unique combination. More information can be found in this quick 4 min video:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><a href="https://ecomatrix.io/product-tour/" target="_blank">https://ecomatrix.io/product-tour/</a><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Though full optimization projects are heavier on time and effort due to accurate parametric modeling of HVAC systems, TEDI optimization is a more simple form of optimization that can be produced with lower effort and relatively quick turnarounds. I look forward to getting your (and the experts on this list) feedback on this and would be very happy to answer any questions as well.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Thanks,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Anup Rathi</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><img width="420" height="94" src="https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4w9xQbZOpdTWhhjugiibps3qPJYpwV6TWxDNxKp5944BxdrKmrY7G13RR-dbw5CU6iCZFeEpV8" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font:10pt "Segoe UI""><div id="m_2227289514255947084m_-9138642137272994864m_848904074710120844m_842817849105250730m_-824681836420989092m_-4637369658639483855m_7316755979529232197GroupWiseSection_1691028364000_arathi@smseng.com_0CE667000DE80000AF736D7334643135_"><span id="m_2227289514255947084m_-9138642137272994864m_848904074710120844m_842817849105250730m_-824681836420989092m_-4637369658639483855m_7316755979529232197GWSignatureSent" style="padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;margin-bottom:5px;display:block"><span style="display:block"><span style="font-size:10pt;display:inline-block"><div style="font:10pt "Segoe UI""><div><br></div></div></span></span></span><span style="margin-bottom:5px;display:block"><br></span>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Thank you everyone for your responses. All of you confirmed that it is indeed Option B.
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The MA 2023 Commercial Stretch code document (linked here) has a table on the TEDI limits
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Based on this table, the TEDI for heating averages 2.5 kBtu/sf/year. From a site EUI perspective, it would mean that if this was a fossil fuel system the site EUI would be about 2.8 kBtu/sf/year
and for an all-electric HP based system, the site EUI would be about 1.13 kBtu/sf/year or lower. And the models are expected to include envelope, infiltration, ventilation, and exhaust systems. It seems like envelope and infiltration loads are expected to
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">But even then, aren’t these targets super aggressive? Is there any documentation that shows that this is possible to achieve in a real-world scenario?<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 12pt">The purpose of TEDI is to push the developers to reduce the thermal demand (load) of the buildings to help the utilities meet the demands and lowering the green gas emissions for generating the electricity since
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that was posted for the public comments</a>. Note that the modeling rules are quite different from Vancouver & Toronto versions.<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in">On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 7:07 PM Niknam via Bldg-sim <<a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in">TEDI is a metric for the building envelope and ventilation load performance. You can sum heating (ONLY) coil loads to determine the output. This is a clip from the guideline we
use in Canada (BC) that explains it. M.F.Area is building area excluding unconditioned indoor parking area, but including all other partially and unconditioned areas. So yes, the answer is option B, excluding the cooling. It is not the peak (A) and does
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Hope everyone is doing well. We are working on a school building in MA and need to perform “TEDI” models. I’ve read through the documentation
and am a little confused if it’s a load metric or an energy metric. The limits are expressed in kBtu/sf/year in the code language, but some of the supporting documentation about how to extract this from equest/IES/ energy plus makes me feel like it’s a load
metric. It has to be one the three and it seems like its option B</span><u></u><u></u></div>
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