<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="ltr"><span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">Jackson,</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I overlooked this section because for some reason I thought it does not apply to parking garages, but after reading it again it seems it could be used for the controls in section 9.4.1. Appreciate the help that answered my question. </div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Nov 16, 2018, at 9:05 AM, Jackson Luckett <<a href="mailto:jluckett@powermgmt.com">jluckett@powermgmt.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Appendix G dictates the adjustments for lighting controls. Can either be through power reduction or schedule modification.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Jackson<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#8E4700">Jackson Luckett<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Nathan Miller <<a href="mailto:nathanm@rushingco.com">nathanm@rushingco.com</a>> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 16, 2018 8:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:saif.a.abdulameer@gmail.com">saif.a.abdulameer@gmail.com</a>; Jackson Luckett <<a href="mailto:jluckett@powermgmt.com">jluckett@powermgmt.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Bldg-sim] Parking Garage Controls<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ha, whoops, obviously I skipped over the ASHRAE section that Saif referenced that made it obvious he was talking lighting controls. For what its worth, the ESMFHRSG I linked to previously also has guidance on appropriate lighting power
reductions to represent occ sensors, etc. However, as pointed out previously, that guide is written for multifamily projects so the guidance probably isn’t appropriate for office.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:saif.a.abdulameer@gmail.com">saif.a.abdulameer@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:saif.a.abdulameer@gmail.com">saif.a.abdulameer@gmail.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 15, 2018 7:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Jackson Luckett' <<a href="mailto:jluckett@powermgmt.com">jluckett@powermgmt.com</a>>; Nathan Miller <<a href="mailto:nathanm@rushingco.com">nathanm@rushingco.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Bldg-sim] Parking Garage Controls<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Jackson,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I want to model the parking garage controls lighting, which includes occupancy sensors and daylighting harvesting for LEED 2010 project. I tied LEED user, but the only thing I was able to find is a different approach to meet the occupancy
sensors. Although these controls are applied the same for the proposed cased and proposed model, I think we cannot use the 24/7 parking garage schedules any more, so I am looking for an approach to model these controls<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Jackson Luckett <<a href="mailto:jluckett@powermgmt.com">jluckett@powermgmt.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 15, 2018 6:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Saif A <<a href="mailto:saif.a.abdulameer@gmail.com">saif.a.abdulameer@gmail.com</a>>; Nathan Miller <<a href="mailto:nathanm@rushingco.com">nathanm@rushingco.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Bldg-sim] Parking Garage Controls<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hey guys,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Not sure if the question is referring to lighting controls or ventilation.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I would recommend searching through these forums to see if it can help:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://leeduser.buildinggreen.com/search/site/parking%20garage%20control">https://leeduser.buildinggreen.com/search/site/parking%20garage%20control</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Depending on your local code requirements and interpretation of the language will dictate whether it is considered a process load or not. If it is ventilation, you will most likely have to show a hand calculation depicting the fan run time
hours with an exceptional calculation if you are going for energy savings.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Jackson<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Bldg-sim <<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Saif A via Bldg-sim<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 15, 2018 5:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nathan Miller <<a href="mailto:nathanm@rushingco.com">nathanm@rushingco.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Parking Garage Controls<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you Nathan, the project I am on is a high-rise office building in Austin<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Nov 15, 2018, at 3:39 PM, Nathan Miller <<a href="mailto:nathanm@rushingco.com">nathanm@rushingco.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Not sure what your project type is, but for multifamily residential applications, the Energy Star Multifamily High Rise Simulation Guidelines give some rules for garage exhaust modeling per 90.1 2016. See section 6.6.2 of this document:<br>
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<a href="https://www.energystar.gov/ia/partners/bldrs_lenders_raters/downloads/mfhr/ENERGY_STAR_MFHR_Simulation_Guidelines_AppG2016.pdf?700f-c417">https://www.energystar.gov/ia/partners/bldrs_lenders_raters/downloads/mfhr/ENERGY_STAR_MFHR_Simulation_Guidelines_AppG2016.pdf?700f-c417</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Bldg-sim <<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Saif A via Bldg-sim<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 15, 2018 4:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] Parking Garage Controls<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi everyone.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am trying to model parking garage controls required by ASHRAE 90.1 2010 Section 9.4.1.3. What would be the best approach to model these controls? Is there a published study that suggests a certain power reduction or schedules when using
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></p>
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