<div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">Thank you so much, everyone. As Victor has illustrated, the geometry was changing and so was the area. Lots of thanks to everyone for pitching in. I can finally sigh in relief. :)</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Sep 6, 2018, 2:00 PM Víctor Moreno Solana <<a href="mailto:gestienergetica@gmail.com" target="_blank">gestienergetica@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(12,52,61)">Hi.</div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#0c343d" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">If you modify the U-value, Design Builder modify the insulation layer thickness to coincide with U-value specified. So, the total wall thickness can be modified dependent on how you have configured the Geometry convention template (<a href="https://www.designbuilder.co.uk/helpv5.5/#GeometryAreasAndVolumes.htm%3FTocPath%3DBuilding%2520Models%7CModel%2520Data%7CBuilding%2520Model%2520Data%7CConstruction%2520Data%7CConstructions%7C_____5" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.designbuilder.co.uk/helpv5.5/#GeometryAreasAndVolumes.htm%3FTocPath%3DBuilding%2520Models%7CModel%2520Data%7CBuilding%2520Model%2520Data%7CConstruction%2520Data%7CConstructions%7C_____5</a>). If the Geometry convention template is not "Simple", the wall thickness will be modify, so the net area is modified too, so for a specified lpd the total power is different.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#0c343d" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-7566531704942519856m_-7142462661327639209gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><p style="font-size:12.8px;margin:0px"><font size="1" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><i><a href="http://es.linkedin.com/in/VictorMoreno3" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><font color="#073763">Victor Moreno</font></a><br></i></font></p><font size="1" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><i><p style="margin:0px"><font color="#274e13">Green Building & Energy Consultant</font><br></p><p style="margin:0px"><font color="#274e13"><a href="http://www.usgbc.org/leed" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">LEED AP BD+C</a>, <a href="http://breeam.es/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">BREEAM Asesor</a>, <a href="http://www.aeespain.org/certificados" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">CEM</a>, <a href="http://www.aeespain.org/certificados" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">CMVP</a>, <a href="http://www.usgbc.org/Docs/Archive/General/Docs1262.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">CxA</a></font></p><p style="margin:0px"><br></p><p style="margin:0px"><font color="#073763"><a href="mailto:gestienergetica@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gestienergetica@gmail.com</a></font></p></i></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">El jue., 6 sept. 2018 a las 7:18, Kiran Ghosh via Bldg-sim (<<a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a>>) escribió:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Jim,<div><br></div><div>I have checked each IDF file and the inputs and schedules. It is literally the same model with only the U values for external walls changed. Could this possibly affect the equipment and lighting load?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 at 01:38, Jim Dirkes <<a href="mailto:jim@buildingperformanceteam.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">jim@buildingperformanceteam.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:large">All lighting and equipment values are within 1% of each other. That's probably close enough to be considered "the same", considering the complex E+ calculations and some rounding errors, but it is less close than seems reasonable. Have you compared inputs and schedules for each of those in each IDF?</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Kiran Ghosh via Bldg-sim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I am currently modelling a simple HVAC model on DesignBuilder. I need to run the simulation to obtain annual electricity consumption due to Cooling, Lighting and Interior Equipment for different construction materials. For some reason, while all the input is the same apart from the U value for the external wall, the electricity end-use for lighting and interior equipment changes as follows:</div><div><br></div><div><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="203" style="border-collapse:collapse;width:152pt">
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<td height="20" class="m_-7566531704942519856m_-7142462661327639209m_7165895397278980714m_2988177563166632052m_-3019716534421661106gmail-xl63" width="64" style="height:15pt;width:48pt;text-align:center;vertical-align:middle;border:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:black;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;white-space:nowrap">U value</td>
<td class="m_-7566531704942519856m_-7142462661327639209m_7165895397278980714m_2988177563166632052m_-3019716534421661106gmail-xl63" width="64" style="border-left:none;width:48pt;text-align:center;vertical-align:middle;border-top:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:black;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;white-space:nowrap">Lighting</td>
<td class="m_-7566531704942519856m_-7142462661327639209m_7165895397278980714m_2988177563166632052m_-3019716534421661106gmail-xl63" width="75" style="border-left:none;width:56pt;text-align:center;vertical-align:middle;border-top:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:black;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;white-space:nowrap">Equipment</td>
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<td height="20" class="m_-7566531704942519856m_-7142462661327639209m_7165895397278980714m_2988177563166632052m_-3019716534421661106gmail-xl63" style="height:15pt;border-top:none;text-align:center;vertical-align:middle;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-left:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:black;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;white-space:nowrap">2.04</td>
<td class="m_-7566531704942519856m_-7142462661327639209m_7165895397278980714m_2988177563166632052m_-3019716534421661106gmail-xl63" style="border-top:none;border-left:none;text-align:center;vertical-align:middle;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:black;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;white-space:nowrap">496.38</td>
<td class="m_-7566531704942519856m_-7142462661327639209m_7165895397278980714m_2988177563166632052m_-3019716534421661106gmail-xl63" style="border-top:none;border-left:none;text-align:center;vertical-align:middle;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:black;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;white-space:nowrap">885.89</td>
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<td height="20" class="m_-7566531704942519856m_-7142462661327639209m_7165895397278980714m_2988177563166632052m_-3019716534421661106gmail-xl63" style="height:15pt;border-top:none;text-align:center;vertical-align:middle;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-left:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:black;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;white-space:nowrap">2</td>
<td class="m_-7566531704942519856m_-7142462661327639209m_7165895397278980714m_2988177563166632052m_-3019716534421661106gmail-xl63" style="border-top:none;border-left:none;text-align:center;vertical-align:middle;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:black;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;white-space:nowrap">494.72</td>
<td class="m_-7566531704942519856m_-7142462661327639209m_7165895397278980714m_2988177563166632052m_-3019716534421661106gmail-xl63" style="border-top:none;border-left:none;text-align:center;vertical-align:middle;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:black;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;white-space:nowrap">880.84</td>
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<td height="20" class="m_-7566531704942519856m_-7142462661327639209m_7165895397278980714m_2988177563166632052m_-3019716534421661106gmail-xl63" style="height:15pt;border-top:none;text-align:center;vertical-align:middle;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-left:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:black;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;white-space:nowrap">1.85</td>
<td class="m_-7566531704942519856m_-7142462661327639209m_7165895397278980714m_2988177563166632052m_-3019716534421661106gmail-xl63" style="border-top:none;border-left:none;text-align:center;vertical-align:middle;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:black;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;white-space:nowrap">487.9</td>
<td class="m_-7566531704942519856m_-7142462661327639209m_7165895397278980714m_2988177563166632052m_-3019716534421661106gmail-xl63" style="border-top:none;border-left:none;text-align:center;vertical-align:middle;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:black;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;white-space:nowrap">860.3</td>
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</tbody></table></div><div><br></div><div><div>The LPD and Equipment Power Density remains the same with the same schedule, why is the annual electricity consumption changing? </div>--<br><div dir="ltr" class="m_-7566531704942519856m_-7142462661327639209m_7165895397278980714m_2988177563166632052m_-3019716534421661106gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small">Thanks and Regards</div><div style="font-size:small"><font color="#444444" face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="1">Kiran K Ghosh</font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font color="#444444" face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="1">+919582904515</font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font color="#444444" face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="1">+918152036434</font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font color="#444444" face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="1"><a href="mailto:kirankghosh31@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kirankghosh31@gmail.com</a></font></div></div></div></div></div>
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