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<p>Roel,</p>
<p>I have the following concerns about the approach you seem to be
taking to define terrain-parameters for wind-driven rain:</p>
<p>(1) you are still basing your investigation on a rather
simplistic model to derive wind-driven rain from the reported rain
fall and wind speed, i.e., do you know how reliable is that model?</p>
<p>(2) for these types of correlations, you might want to use wind
speeds at a much finer time resolution, since what's reported at
the standard weather stations are random snapshots at an hourly or
half-hourly time step. You could consider using data from
Personal Weather Stations (PWS), that are typically at the 5
minute interval and many also have an additional channel for
gusts. Such weather data, i.e., 5-minute data in urban or
suburban areas, are currently available for tens of thousands of
PWS, especially in North America and the UK, on web sites such as
Weather Underground (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="http://www.wunderground.com">www.wunderground.com</a>).
One caveat would be to know the placement of the PWS, which tend
to be on rooftops (the problem is worse for official weather
stations that are supposed to be at 10 m above the ground). If
you're interested in the WU weather data, let me know via e-mail.</p>
<p>I would not recommend using New York Central Park, or at least
you should compare the results to that from some other place
that's less atypical. The Central Park weather station is
located at the Belvedere (see attached map), which is an isolated
building in the middle of a large urban park that is in turn
surrounded by tall buildings and adjacent to some of the tallest
buildings in the world. </p>
<p><img src="cid:part2.4874A1B6.A6B9D5D8@whiteboxtechnologies.com"
alt=""></p>
<p>Yes, I'm aware that the terminal velocity of raindrops varies
with their size. However, I ignored that factor because any
error due to using a constant value would be small compared to all
the other assumptions of the model and besides, I don't think
raindrop size is recorded in any weather data.</p>
<p>Joe<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/19/2018 7:30 AM, Roel Tersteeg
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Joe, Julien,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for the extensive replies and
your suggestions. <o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The rainfall above an area is not very
different between airfield and urban areas, but due to the
buildings and trees that may shelter locations in build-up
areas this can cause lower rainfall in those locations. As you
mentioned the wind will be altered in a more significant way.
One thing I would like to do is actually (re)define ‘terrain
parameters’ for wind driven rain. A single number, such as in
your example, hides the actual uncertainty behind that number.
And for that I would like to find measured data, the location
of which doesn’t matter that much.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The usage of weather stations for the
purpose I am looking for is usually not an option as the
location of weather stations is such that buildings and trees
around the site don’t have an effect on the measurements
(typically > 100 m around the site free of obstructions).
For the model I am trying to build, the (uncertainty in the)
effect of trees and buildings on rain and wind is exactly what
I try to model. If you know of weather stations on such sites,
I would be grateful if you could help me with that. I will
also have a look at the weather stations in central park and
see if they can help me.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">As for the calculation presented, there are
several methods (e.g. ISO15927, ASHRAE standard 55) and they
mostly have the form of
Rainfall*Wind_speed*cos(Wind_direction-Wall_normal), with
possibly some factors. There is a bit more explanation in
Climatological note 3 from Met Eireann, from which note 13 is
an update, how they calculated the map.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">As a site-note: the velocity of raindrops
is dependent on the size of the droplet with larger drops
having a higher speed (terminal velocity) that smaller ones. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Roel Tersteeg MSc<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:gray">PhD-student <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:gray">Building Energy
Research Group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:gray">School of
Architecture, Building and Civil Engineering<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:gray">Loughborough
University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:gray">T: +44 77 56 10 90
54<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:gray">E: </span><a
href="mailto:R.M.Tersteeg@lboro.ac.uk"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:gray">R.M.Tersteeg@lboro.ac.uk</span></a><span
style="color:gray"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Julien Marrec <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:julien.marrec@gmail.com"><julien.marrec@gmail.com></a>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 19 July 2018 13:26<br>
<b>To:</b> Joe Huang <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com"><yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Roel Tersteeg <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:R.M.Tersteeg@lboro.ac.uk"><R.M.Tersteeg@lboro.ac.uk></a>;
Luis Miguel Blanes Restoy <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:lmblanes@gmail.com"><lmblanes@gmail.com></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Wind driven rain data<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">FYI, I can think of at least one
location where you'd find probably good quality weather
data in a <b><u>big </u>urban center and not at an
airport: Central Park, New York City, USA</b>, though
it's in a quite large park but there are tall buildings
all around it, see <a
href="https://www.google.com/maps/place/40%C2%B046%2744.4%22N+73%C2%B058%2708.4%22W/@40.7787947,-73.9765413,15.5z/data=%214m5%213m4%211s0x0:0x0%218m2%213d40.779%214d-73.969"
moz-do-not-send="true"> map</a>.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Note that in NOAA there's a weird thing
going on where you have 4 stations with different
operating dates, one did 1943 to 2010, another 2010 to
2012 or so, and another started after that (I know I said
there are four: one did 17 days in august 2010 but
overlapped another running one). Here are the USAF-WBAN
codes for the two most interesting:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">725053-94728 #CENTRAL PARK (2012 to
today)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">725060-94728 #NEW YORK CENTRAL PARK
(2010 to 2012)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">This data is free and can be accessed
at NOAA's ISD (see <a
href="https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/isd/data-access"
moz-do-not-send="true"> here</a>)<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I looked at France's stations in the
NOAA database too, since I have a better clue of where
things actually are, and it seems that there are a bunch
that aren't at an airport, but there are all in seaside
towns, so that is probably not what you're looking for...<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Here are some stations you'll perhaps
want to look at, I'm including the three airports around
central park too if you want to compare the data. Don't
mind the fact that the 'END" date is last year, I just
haven't refreshed this file since September 2017<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">46.15<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">-1.15<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">10<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">19290801<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">20170902<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">YES<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:15.0pt">
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">76410<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">99999<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">SETE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">FR<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<br>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<br>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">43.4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">3.7<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">81<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">19360615<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">20170902<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">YES<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:15.0pt">
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">76950<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">99999<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">CAP
FERRAT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">FR<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<br>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<br>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">43.683<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">7.333<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">144<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">19730101<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">20100412<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">YES<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:15.0pt">
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">725030<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">14732<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">LA
GUARDIA AIRPORT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">US<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">NY<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">KLGA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">40.779<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">-73.88<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">3.4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">19730101<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">20170904<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">YES<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:15.0pt">
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">725033<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">94728<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">NYC
CENTRAL PARK<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">US<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">NY<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">KNYC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">40.779<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">-73.969<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">47.5<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">19431201<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">20100731<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">YES<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:15.0pt">
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">725033<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">99999<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">NEW
YORK CITY CENTRAL PARK<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">US<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">NY<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
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</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">40.767<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">-73.983<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">27<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">20100801<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">20100817<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">YES<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:15.0pt">
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">725053<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">94728<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">CENTRAL
PARK<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">US<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">NY<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">KNYC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">40.779<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">-73.969<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">42.7<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">20120801<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">20170904<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">YES<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:15.0pt">
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">725060<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
align="right"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">94728<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">NEW
YORK CENTRAL PARK<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">US<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">NY<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
.75pt;height:15.0pt" nowrap="nowrap" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">KNYC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 0cm
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL">2018-07-19 3:55
GMT+02:00 Joe Huang via Bldg-sim <</span><a
href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span lang="NL">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</span></a><span
lang="NL">>:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Roel,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I'm not an expert in this field of liquid
precipitation, but here are my thoughts in response to
your comments:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>1) I'm not aware of drastic differences in rainfall
between the airport and more urban areas of a city.
However, there are noticeable differences in wind
speeds for which, in the absence of measured data, are
accounted for in building energy modeling by
TERRAIN-PARAMETERs dependent on the general site
description, e.g., 1.00 for flat terrain such as an
airport, 0.85 for rural, 0.67 for urban or forest,
and 0.47 for urban centers with tall building, and the
height difference between the measured data and the
site. if you're having difficulty in finding either
measured wind speed or driving rain data (good luck!),
I would suggest you just use the airport data and
adjust that with a Terrain Parameter.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>2) If you insist on getting rain and wind speed data
for a suburban location, I'm sure those can be found
among the 8,000+ weather stations for which I have
hourly weather data, but the locations would be
anywhere in the world. Do you care where is the
location? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>3) The Met Eirerann paper describes a driving rain
index, but does not provide the equation. In thinking
about it again (note that I've only thought about this
after reading your original query), I think a
plausible approach would be:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> a. find the approximate downward velocity of
falling rain (a quick web search for "How fast do
raindrops fall" gave the answer of 10 m/sec)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> b. divide that by the (adjusted) wind speed to get
the fraction that would fall on a vertical surface,
i.e., driving rain.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> c. multiply the "driving rain fraction" by the
reported rain fall to get the amount of driving rain.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> c. use the wind direction to apportion the driving
rain by the wall orientation. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>It's still not clear to me what is the primary
motivation for your investigation. Is it to determine
the amount of driving rain at a particular location or
weather file? to validate the method to calculate
driving rain? Or to just get a handle on how much
driving rain is there ?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Joe<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Joe Huang<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>White Box Technologies, Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>346 Rheem Blvd., Suite 205A<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Moraga CA 94556<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>"building energy simulations at your fingertips"<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 7/18/2018 5:43 AM, Roel
Tersteeg wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dear
Joe and Luis,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thank
you for your replies to my question and
apologies for my very late reply to you both.
Unfortunately the data from official, synoptic
weather stations is airfield data and thus not
applicable to my situation as there is no
difference in microclimate (no changes in wind
or rainfall due to surrounding building). The
same goes for the Met Eireann information (if
of interest, the Climatological notes 13 and 3
about wind driven rain can also be found and
downloaded here as well: <a
href="https://www.met.ie/education/publications/climatological-notes"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
https://www.met.ie/education/publications/climatological-notes</a>)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
am looking specific for wind driven rain data,
or indeed combined wind and precipitation data
that can be converted to wind driven rain, for
different (sub)urban settings. The suggestion
for looking at ‘personal weather stations’ is
very interesting, although this has the issue
of uncertainty about the quality of the
measurements.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Kind
regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Roel
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Luis Miguel Blanes Restoy </span><a
href="mailto:lmblanes@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
lang="EN-US"><lmblanes@gmail.com></span></a><span
lang="EN-US"> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 06 July 2018 14:34<br>
<b>To:</b> Joe Huang </span><a
href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
lang="EN-US"><yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com></span></a><span
lang="EN-US"><br>
<b>Cc:</b> </span><a
href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
lang="EN-US">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</span></a><span
lang="EN-US"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Wind driven
rain data</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Joe<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Try
this link<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a
href="https://es.scribd.com/document/346851908/MET-Driving-Rain-Index-IRELAND#close_user_settings_menu"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://es.scribd.com/document/346851908/MET-Driving-Rain-Index-IRELAND#close_user_settings_menu</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Luis<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
Thu 5 Jul 2018, 04:28 Joe Huang, <<a
href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Luis,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Thanks for the tip. I went to the
link, which by the way is for the Irish
Meteorological Service, and read that
it said, "<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#434343;background:white">The
amount of rain received by a wall
correlates fairly well with the
product of rainfall and the component
of the wind speed normal to the wall.
This led Lacy and Shellard to propose
the product of the mean annual
rainfall and the mean annual wind
speed as a driving rain index which is
proportional to the total rainfall
driven in one year on to a vertical
surface always facing the wind",
which is functionally quite close to
what I was envisioning, i.e., WDR = LP
* f(wspd, wdir), where LP is Liquid
Precipitation or Rainfall. However,
when I clicked on the link to the
actual paper cited, the Meteireann
web site responded that "404: Page
not found". Therefore, I still don't
know the function that converts LP or
rainfall to WDR.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#434343;background:white">Joe</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Joe Huang<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>White Box Technologies, Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>346 Rheem Blvd., Suite 205A<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Moraga CA 94556<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com</a> for simulation-ready weather data<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>(o) (925)388-0265<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>(c) (510)928-2683<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>"building energy simulations at your fingertips"<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
7/4/2018 2:30 PM, Luis Miguel Blanes
Restoy wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi
Roel and Joe<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Did
you look at available data from
Met Eireann? There is a paper
regarding WDR index calculation
method that may be of your
interest. See below link.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a
href="https://www.met.ie/climate/what-we-measure/rainfall"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.met.ie/climate/what-we-measure/rainfall#</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Luis<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
Wed 4 Jul 2018, 22:12 Joe
Huang via Bldg-sim, <<a
href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>What is your definition for
Wind-driven Rain?
Practically all weather
station reports, including
official stations available
in NOAA's ISD as well as
unofficial "Personal Weather
Stations" hosted on
WeatherUnderground, contain
information on liquid
precipitation (LP), wind
speed, and wind direction.
Can the WDR be calculated
from these standard
parameters, maybe as the LP
* f(wspd, wdir) ?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Joe<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
7/4/2018 3:52 AM, Roel
Tersteeg via Bldg-sim
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dear
all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">For
the verification of a
model to estimate wind
driven rain (WDR) I
would like to use WDR
data from different
microclimates (rural,
(sub)urban). I have
access to several data
sets of free field or
airfield WDR
measurements from
different locations and
the results from a
measurement campaign in
Vancouver. To better
evaluate the model I
would like to use
measured data from one
or more locations with
different microclimates,
not being free field or
airfield sites.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">My
question is if someone
knows if measurements
are available of wind
driven rain in one or
more microclimates?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Kind
regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Roel
Tersteeg MSc<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:gray">PhD-student
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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