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    <p>Roel,</p>
    <p>I'm not an expert in this field of liquid precipitation, but here
      are my thoughts in response to your comments:</p>
    <p>1) I'm not aware of drastic differences in rainfall between the
      airport and more urban areas of a city.  However, there are
      noticeable differences in wind speeds for which, in the absence of
      measured data, are accounted for in building energy modeling by
      TERRAIN-PARAMETERs dependent on the general site description,
      e.g., 1.00 for flat terrain such as an airport, 0.85 for rural, 
      0.67 for urban or forest, and 0.47 for urban centers with tall
      building, and the height difference between the measured data and
      the site.  if you're having difficulty in finding either measured
      wind speed or driving rain data (good luck!), I would suggest you
      just use the airport data and adjust that with a Terrain
      Parameter.</p>
    <p>2) If you insist on getting rain and wind speed data for a
      suburban location, I'm sure those can be found among the 8,000+
      weather stations for which I have hourly weather data, but the
      locations would be anywhere in the world.  Do you care where is
      the location?  <br>
    </p>
    <p>3) The Met Eirerann paper describes a driving rain index, but
      does not provide the equation.  In thinking about it again (note
      that I've only thought about this after reading your original
      query), I think a plausible approach would be:</p>
    <p>   a. find the approximate downward velocity of falling rain (a
      quick web search for "How fast do raindrops fall" gave the answer
      of 10 m/sec)</p>
    <p>   b. divide that by the (adjusted) wind speed to get the
      fraction that would fall on a vertical surface, i.e., driving
      rain.</p>
    <p>   c. multiply the "driving rain fraction" by the reported rain
      fall to get the amount of driving rain.<br>
    </p>
    <p>   c. use the wind direction to apportion the driving rain by the
      wall orientation. <br>
    </p>
    <p>It's still not clear to me what is the primary motivation for
      your investigation.  Is it to determine the amount of driving rain
      at a particular location or weather file?  to validate the method
      to calculate driving rain?  Or to just get a handle on how much
      driving rain is there ?</p>
    <p>Joe<br>
    </p>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="90">Joe Huang
White Box Technologies, Inc.
346 Rheem Blvd., Suite 205A
Moraga CA 94556
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com">yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com">http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com</a> for simulation-ready weather data
(o) (925)388-0265
(c) (510)928-2683
"building energy simulations at your fingertips"
</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/18/2018 5:43 AM, Roel Tersteeg
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear
            Joe and Luis,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thank
            you for your replies to my question and apologies for my
            very late reply to you both. Unfortunately the data from
            official, synoptic weather stations is airfield data and
            thus not applicable to my situation as there is no
            difference in microclimate (no changes in wind or rainfall
            due to surrounding building). The same goes for the Met
            Eireann information (if of interest, the Climatological
            notes 13 and 3 about wind driven rain can also be found and
            downloaded here as well: <a
              href="https://www.met.ie/education/publications/climatological-notes"
              moz-do-not-send="true">
https://www.met.ie/education/publications/climatological-notes</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
            am looking specific for wind driven rain data, or indeed
            combined wind and precipitation data that can be converted
            to wind driven rain, for different (sub)urban settings. The
            suggestion for looking at ‘personal weather stations’ is
            very interesting, although this has the issue of uncertainty
            about the quality of the measurements.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Roel <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
            lang="EN-US"> Luis Miguel Blanes Restoy
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lmblanes@gmail.com"><lmblanes@gmail.com></a>
            <br>
            <b>Sent:</b> 06 July 2018 14:34<br>
            <b>To:</b> Joe Huang
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com"><yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com></a><br>
            <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Wind driven rain data<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Joe<o:p></o:p></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Try this link<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://es.scribd.com/document/346851908/MET-Driving-Rain-Index-IRELAND#close_user_settings_menu"
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://es.scribd.com/document/346851908/MET-Driving-Rain-Index-IRELAND#close_user_settings_menu</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Luis<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">On Thu 5 Jul 2018, 04:28 Joe Huang,
              <<a href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true">yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com</a>>
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p>Luis,<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p>Thanks for the tip.  I went to the link, which by the
                way is for the Irish Meteorological Service,  and read
                that it said, "<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#434343;background:white">The
                  amount of rain received by a wall correlates fairly
                  well with the product of rainfall and the component of
                  the wind speed normal to the wall. This led Lacy and
                  Shellard to propose the product of the mean annual
                  rainfall and the mean annual wind speed as a driving
                  rain index which is proportional to the total rainfall
                  driven in one year on to a vertical surface always
                  facing the wind",  which is functionally quite close
                  to what I was envisioning, i.e., WDR = LP * f(wspd,
                  wdir),  where LP is Liquid Precipitation or Rainfall.
                  However, when I clicked on the link to the actual
                  paper cited,  the Meteireann web site responded that 
                  "404: Page not found".  Therefore, I still don't know
                  the function that converts LP or rainfall to WDR.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#434343;background:white">Joe</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <pre>Joe Huang<o:p></o:p></pre>
              <pre>White Box Technologies, Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
              <pre>346 Rheem Blvd., Suite 205A<o:p></o:p></pre>
              <pre>Moraga CA 94556<o:p></o:p></pre>
              <pre><a href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
              <pre><a href="http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com</a> for simulation-ready weather data<o:p></o:p></pre>
              <pre>(o) (925)388-0265<o:p></o:p></pre>
              <pre>(c) (510)928-2683<o:p></o:p></pre>
              <pre>"building energy simulations at your fingertips"<o:p></o:p></pre>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">On 7/4/2018 2:30 PM, Luis Miguel
                  Blanes Restoy wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Roel and Joe<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                  </div>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Did you look at available data
                      from Met Eireann? There is a paper regarding WDR
                      index calculation method that may be of your
                      interest. See below link.<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><a
                        href="https://www.met.ie/climate/what-we-measure/rainfall"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.met.ie/climate/what-we-measure/rainfall#</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Luis<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                    <p><o:p> </o:p></p>
                    <div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed 4 Jul 2018, 22:12
                          Joe Huang via Bldg-sim, <<a
                            href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a>>
                          wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p>What is your definition for Wind-driven
                            Rain?  Practically all weather station
                            reports, including official stations
                            available in NOAA's ISD as well as
                            unofficial "Personal Weather Stations"
                            hosted on WeatherUnderground, contain
                            information on liquid precipitation (LP),
                            wind speed, and wind direction.  Can the WDR
                            be calculated from these standard
                            parameters, maybe as the LP * f(wspd, wdir)
                            ?<o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p>Joe<o:p></o:p></p>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">On 7/4/2018 3:52 AM,
                              Roel Tersteeg via Bldg-sim wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dear
                                all,<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">For
                                the verification of a model to estimate
                                wind driven rain (WDR) I would like to
                                use WDR data from different
                                microclimates (rural, (sub)urban). I
                                have access to several data sets of free
                                field or airfield WDR measurements from
                                different locations and the results from
                                a measurement campaign in Vancouver. To
                                better evaluate the model I would like
                                to use measured data from one or more
                                locations with different microclimates,
                                not being free field or airfield sites.<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">My
                                question is if someone knows if
                                measurements are available of wind
                                driven rain in one or more
                                microclimates?<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Kind
                                regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Roel
                                Tersteeg MSc<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
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                                  style="color:gray">PhD-student
                                </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                  style="color:gray">Building Energy
                                  Research Group</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                  style="color:gray">School of
                                  Architecture, Building and Civil
                                  Engineering</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                  style="color:gray">Loughborough
                                  University</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                  style="color:gray">T: +44 77 56 10 90
                                  54</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                  style="color:gray">E:
                                </span><a
                                  href="mailto:R.M.Tersteeg@lboro.ac.uk"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                    style="color:gray">R.M.Tersteeg@lboro.ac.uk</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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