<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Javed,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">I am inclined to agree with Mr. Bhatnagar, but think it will be worth asking GBCI for a clarification so that you have greater confidence. The "hybrid" nature of one air-cooled and one evaporatively cooled chiller is unusual.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 11:35 PM, Mayank Bhatnagar via Bldg-sim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Javed,</div><div><br></div><div>In my opinion the air-cooled chiller efficiency should be used. As in the hybrid cooler (with water sprayer), the water spray is limited to only 200 hours in a year which is approximately 2-5% of the total hours in a year. So the worst case scenario would be air-cooled chiller.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><span style="font:400 13.33px arial,sans-serif;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;float:none;background-color:transparent">Mayank Bhatnagar</span><br style="background:none;font:400 13.33px arial,sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);width:auto;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"></div><div><span style="text-align:left;color:rgb(0,102,0);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:transparent">Senior Project Manager<br></span><br style="background:none;font:400 13.33px arial,sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);width:auto;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b style="background:none;font:700 13.33px arial,sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);width:auto;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">Environmental Design Solutions Pvt. Ltd. [EDS]</b><br style="background:none;font:400 13.33px arial,sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);width:auto;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><span style="font:400 13.33px arial,sans-serif;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;float:none;background-color:transparent">

D - 1/25 </span><br style="background:none;font:400 13.33px arial,sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);width:auto;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><span style="font:400 13.33px arial,sans-serif;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;float:none;background-color:transparent">Vasant Vihar</span><br style="background:none;font:400 13.33px arial,sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);width:auto;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><span style="font:400 13.33px arial,sans-serif;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;float:none;background-color:transparent">New Delhi - 110057</span><br style="background:none;font:400 13.33px arial,sans-serif;outline:transparent 0px;border:0px rgb(34,34,34);width:auto;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;overflow:visible;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><span style="font:400 13.33px arial,sans-serif;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;float:none;background-color:transparent">India</span><b></b></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 10:47 PM, Javed Iqbal via Bldg-sim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.<wbr>org</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#073763"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:small">Hello,</span><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div style="background-color:#fff"><div id="m_7040780908593072963m_5310775448804871148m_2465159858129261468m_-230563553682319597ygrp-mlmsg"><div id="m_7040780908593072963m_5310775448804871148m_2465159858129261468m_-230563553682319597ygrp-msg"><div id="m_7040780908593072963m_5310775448804871148m_2465159858129261468m_-230563553682319597ygrp-text"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">

<font color="#000000"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-style:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-weight:400"> I </span>would appreciate your expert advice on selecting 90.1-2010 Baseline system 

<span style="font-weight:400;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal">to show minimum efficiency compliance as given under </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><b><u>Table 6.8.1C</u></b></span>. One of the proposed project i am working on has two</span><u style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span> </span><span class="m_7040780908593072963m_5310775448804871148m_2465159858129261468m_-230563553682319597gmail-il">Chillers</span></u></font></div><div><ol><li style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><u style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">One  with Std. Dry Coolers </u><br></li><li><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Second chiller has special arrangement where the surrounding air of cooling tower being cooled (dry bulb) by some sort of misting to increase the dry cooler effectiveness during extreme outdoor condition (CZ5A) ~ 80% lower water consumption compared to typical water cooled cooling tower. In this hybrid cooling tower, evaporation effect is happening but not like std. water cooled cooling tower. </font></li></ol></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">​ To <span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">show minimum efficiency compliance</span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">, <u>what condenser type do i need to choose</u>; Air or Water Cooled in both the Cooling tower type; Std Dry cooler and Hybrid Dry cooler (see image below)?</span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"> </span>

​Also find an attachment to have more info<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99);display:inline">​​ </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99);display:inline">​</div>on the product.</div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><img width="562" height="257" src="cid:ii_jebrjnbe1_161ed587242fc798"><br>​</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">​Thank you so much.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">regards,​</div><span class="m_7040780908593072963HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div><span class="m_7040780908593072963HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">-- <br><div class="m_7040780908593072963m_5310775448804871148m_2465159858129261468m_-230563553682319597gmail_signature" data="https://ci4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/CpYzkcDKjPf-NqFCSu4GBqoQ_5P1dDkfTMWPGDqglo-e-uanL4gIS02e2U0=s0-d-e1-ft#http://gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="TEXT-ALIGN:left"><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(51,51,255)"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:#ffffff"></font><br></font></span></div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(51,51,255)">
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