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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thank you </span><span style="color:#44546A">Clément. I really appreciate all the time people on this group are willing to spend responding to all our questions.</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> Clément Lechartier [mailto:clement.lechartier@gmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 25, 2018 2:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jones, Christopher <Christopher.r.Jones@wsp.com>; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] IDA ICE experience<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hello there,<br>
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I started using IDA ICE for my master thesis two years ago, for which I had to model a complex HVAC system for a museum (several ventilation systems for cooling/heating+drying/humidifying with 2 central heat recovery systems, rooms with contaminated air, different
control strategies with variable airflows...) Though the whole system became quite complex in the end it was still possible to keep on working well with the models and optimizing the control strategies using the features of the integrated model versions comparator.<br>
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As Chris Yates already explained, it is possible to get into the mathematical background of every components of the model. You can also plot every variable that you find there, so you can really interrogate what happens in the model.<br>
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Furthermore there are some great other tools like loading different models and getting a "difference check", which is pretty useful while debugging, or also starting an additional session with an independent Core, so you can keep on working on an other model
while already running another simulation. <br>
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The results can be well exported and in different ways if needed.<br>
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Regarding the geometry I found the combination of the 3D interface with the floor plan interface quite good. Importing schemes from IFC, Sketchup or DWG worked well too.<br>
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Important to mention as well is the help from EQUA: mail, phone, webinars (free), seminars (not free), also the users forum can be very useful. Since I have been using IDA ICE I could always find a way to solve the problems (debugging or modelling).<br>
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As a user I find it also great that there are so many possibilities to explore, so many things to model, to connect and to simulate, you have the feeling you are learning a lot while working, but this is something which is common to any good software...<br>
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Last but not least: there is an integration of OpenFOAM which is coming,... currently it is still a beta-version but I already saw it working, quite impressive.<br>
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I don't have that much experience with other softwares so I can not really compare objectively. I can only say: go for a trial or/and ask for a live-demo and judge by yourself!<br>
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Greetings from Berlin<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 23.02.18 um 14:24 schrieb Jones, Christopher via Bldg-sim:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am wondering about experience with IDA ICE. Some are claiming it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. The blurb on their website sounds encouraging but I am always nervous when the cost of software isn’t readily apparent.
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are using eQuest, IES VE and OpenStudio. Are there things IDA ICE can to that these other tools cannot? If IDA ICE has good ice rink capabilities then it might be worth investigating.<o:p></o:p></p>
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