<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">My opinion:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">If there is no thermostat, the design essentially says that a wide temperature variation is acceptable. You might consider arguing that those zones <u>cannot </u>have unmet load hours because the design does not attempt to control temperature. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">For your own peace of mind (if your software allows it), you might also report hourly temperatures in the zone to confirm that temps don't go crazy unexpectedly during occupied hours.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:47 AM, Jones, Christopher via Bldg-sim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am wondering what others do for building zones that are conditioned but have no direct HVAC control. For example, a typical school will have a DOAS with perimeter radiation in exterior zones. There will be temperature and CO2 DCV in these
occupied zones. The corridor will have transfer air and may have a couple of small supply diffusers from the DOAS but there is no thermostat to control the temperature in that corridor.
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<p class="MsoNormal">If there is no thermostat, there is no setpoint so how does one determine if the corridor has unmet loads? How would one model the corridor zone in the baseline case for Appendix G?<u></u><u></u></p>
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</p><p style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><font size="4" color="#0000ff"></font></span></p><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><p style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;text-autospace:none"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.3333px"><b>Coffee conversation:</b>
</span></font><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">The first idea is the worst, but it </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">is the most important because it starts discussion and becomes the building </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">block for other ideas.</span></p></pre></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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