<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Dear Chris,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">The ASHRAE <a href="https://www.google.hu/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0ahUKEwjfrKS8oJfSAhXHiRoKHeV4CB4QFggrMAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ashrae.org%2FFile%2520Library%2FdocLib%2FPublic%2F20100603_ic90120075.pdf&usg=AFQjCNGEpwM5bZsLYbRcfbO4CiEaSuvcAA&sig2=EN5_0kGzKchtWsr_RjQ1lQ">INTERPRETATION IC 90.1-2007</a> might help you. It states</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><i><font color="#073763">Exception a to G3.1.1 should be utilized first to determine if multiple baseline HVAC system
types from Table G3.1.1A are appropriate. However, exception a to G3.1.1 only applies if the
separate area is greater than 20,000 ft2 and that area must qualify for a different baseline HVAC
system type based on a </font><font color="#ff9900">different building type, heating source, number of floors, or residential vs
non-residential classification</font><font color="#073763">.
For example, if the office area and the warehouse area of a building are both greater than 20,000
ft2 and the office uses electric heat while the warehouse uses gas heat, then two separate baseline
systems types could be utilized.
If exception b to G3.1.1 applies to portions of the areas served by one of the baseline HVAC
systems, then separate single-zone systems conforming with the requirements of System 3 or
System 4 (depending on building heating source) can be utilized. </font></i><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#073763"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#073763">Hope this helps you!!</font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Chris Jones via Bldg-sim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Jim,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">My question is about the retail spaces on the main floor. I agree, the residential tower has System 1 but I am still not entirely sure about the retail spaces.
They make up more than 20,000 ft2 so Exception G3.1.1.(a) applies but I am not sure if I use the area/number of floors of the entire building when selecting the retail baseline system. Or do I use the area/number of floors of the retail spaces when selecting
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</span><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Jim Dirkes [mailto:<a href="mailto:jim@buildingperformanceteam.com" target="_blank">jim@<wbr>buildingperformanceteam.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 17, 2017 7:54 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Baseline HVAC system type question<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p><div><div class="h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">Residential is ALWAYS System 1 or 2, never one of the others.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 7:39 AM, Chris Jones via Bldg-sim <<a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.<wbr>org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">In this case, the retail is more than 20,000 ft<sup>2</sup> so I need to select a different baseline
system. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">My follow-up question: the building is more than 5 floors (majority is residential) but the retail
only occupies the ground floor. Would I select System 7, VAV reheat as the building is more than 5 floors.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Or would I select System 3 for the retail because the that space only occupies 1 floor?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I believe that if the retail gross floor area is less than 1900 m2 you can use system 1, otherwise you can use exception a of section G3.1.1.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2017-02-16 17:12 GMT-02:00 Chris Jones via Bldg-sim <<a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.<wbr>org</a>>:<u></u><u></u></p>
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90.1-2007 says to use the predominant condition to select the baseline system. In this case residential is the predominant condition therefore I am assuming the retail spaces would also have System 1, PTAC? Heating is fossil fuel.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] ASHRAE Building Performance Analysis conference needs knowledgeable presenters</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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