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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Can does not mean you will have an accurate model. All too often the questions are about what can or what must I do and not about what is best to do.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Bldg-sim [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Leonard Sciarra via Bldg-sim<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 15, 2016 1:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] LEED project - maximum limit allowed to simplified wall azimuth.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Julian – </span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>The text is written to include 45 degrees. So if they are 45 degrees, then you can make it a square, although the exception was intended for curved surfaces.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Hope this helps.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'> <br><b>Leonard Sciarra, AIA, ASHRAE, LEED ap+ </b><br>Senior Associate <br>+1 312.577.6580 Direct <br>+1 312.456.0123 Main <br>+1 847.345.5619 Mobile <br> <br></span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#EE3224'>Gensler </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><br>11 East Madison Street<br>Suite 300 <br>Chicago, Illinois 60602 <br>USA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.gensler.com/"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Gensler.com</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'> | </span><a href="http://www.gensleron.com/"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Blog</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'> | </span><a href="http://www.facebook.com/GenslerDesign"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Facebook</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'> | </span><a href="http://www.twitter.com/GenslerOnCities"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Twitter</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'> | </span><a href="http://www.youtube.com/GenslerTV"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>YouTube</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>What’s ahead for design and our clients?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Find out here: </span><a href="http://www.gensler.com/doc/gensler-design-forecast-2016"><b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:red'>Gensler Design Forecast 2016</span></i></b></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Bldg-sim [<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>via Bldg-sim<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 15, 2016 11:17 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] LEED project - maximum limit allowed to simplified wall azimuth.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='font-family:"Droid Serif"'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='font-family:"Droid Serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Droid Serif"'>Does anyone know how to interpret “</span><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>no more than 45 degrees” of </span><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Droid Serif"'>exception 5.b - table G3.1 (90.1-2007/2010/2013) ? : <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Droid Serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:35.4pt'><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>5. Building Envelope<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:35.4pt;text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>All components of the building envelope in the proposed design shall be modeled as shown on architectural drawings or as built for existing building envelopes. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt;text-indent:35.4pt;text-autospace:none'><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Exceptions:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt;text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>b. Exterior surfaces whose azimuth orientation and tilt differ by no more than 45 degrees and are otherwise the same may be described as either a single surface or by using multipliers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Droid Serif"'>Because “no more than 45 degree” include 45 degree, does the exception still apply if the azimuth of two walls is exactly 45 degrees? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Droid Serif"'>In other words, considering a LEED project, can a perfect octagonal building shape be modeled as a square building (as long as they have the same floor area and the 8 walls have a similar construction) ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Droid Serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Droid Serif"'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Droid Serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='font-family:"Droid Serif"'>Julien<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Droid Serif";color:#1F497D'>____________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:FR-CA'>Julien Dutel,</span></b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:FR-CA'> ing., </span><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:FR-CA'>CEM, CMVP<b>.</b></span><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:FR-CA'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2E74B5;mso-fareast-language:FR-CA'>Direction des secteurs </span></b><b><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2E74B5;mso-fareast-language:FR-CA'>résidentiel, institutionnel et des affaires</span></b><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#2E74B5;mso-fareast-language:FR-CA'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2E74B5;mso-fareast-language:FR-CA'>Bureau de l'efficacité et de l'innovation énergétiques<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2E74B5;mso-fareast-language:FR-CA'>Ministère de l'Énergie et des Ressources naturelles<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2E74B5;mso-fareast-language:FR-CA'>5700, 4e Avenue Ouest, B-406<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2E74B5;mso-fareast-language:FR-CA'>Québec (Québec) G1H 6R1<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2E74B5;mso-fareast-language:FR-CA'>Téléphone : 418 627-6379, poste 8060<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2E74B5;mso-fareast-language:FR-CA'>Téléphone sans frais : 1 877 727-6655<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2E74B5;mso-fareast-language:FR-CA'>Télécopieur : 418 643-5828<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:FR-CA'><a href="mailto:julien.dutel@mern.gouv.qc.ca"><span style='color:blue'>julien.dutel@mern.gouv.qc.ca</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2E74B5;mso-fareast-language:FR-CA'>mern.gouv.qc.ca<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='mso-fareast-language:FR-CA'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='mso-fareast-language:FR-CA'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>