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    <p>Sorry for my non-communicativeness (word ?) the past week,
      because I was in New York and just returned last night.</p>
    <p>As mentioned by Jason last week, and then repeated here by Nick, 
      converting eQUEST or DOE-2.1E building models to EnergyPlus  is
      something that I have had experience, although most of it is by
      now a decade old.  From 2005-2008, I led a team of 7 at LBNL to
      convert DOE-2.1E building models used by the California Energy
      Commission for certifying Alternate Compliance Methods (ACMs) to
      EnergyPlus (then Version 1.4).  Since the team included the
      remaining members of the DOE-2 Development Team at LBNL (now since
      all retired), our strategy was to modify the DOE-2.1E program to
      output an EnergyPlus IDF, which in my mind is the only robust way
      to do this since any new program would have to recreate all the
      functionality of doebdl and a good part of doesim, plus endless
      checking to make sure that its parsing of the original DOE-2 input
      file is consistent with DOE-2. Another unique feature of this
      modified program, which I ended up calling doe2ep, is that it
      creates a full EnergyPlus *.idf including not only the description
      of the building as well as that of the HVAC system and plant.  The
      LOADS conversion was tedious but straight-forward, while the
      SYSTEM and PLANT conversions were much more challenging, since it
      required creating all the nodes, loops, and components in
      EnergyPlus.  This was done using HVAC Template Files (NOT the
      current set, but a previous incomplete set that used EPMacro (same
      as DOE-2 macros) and was abandoned in 2007.  The end product was a
      working version of doe2ep which translated 95% of the LOADS, 60%
      of SYSTEMS (common HVAC system types, e.g., VAVS, PVAVS, PSZ,
      etc.), and 25% of PLANT.  For the 140+ building models in the
      certification suite, doe2ep was able to run DOE-2.1E, convert to
      IDF and run EnergyPlus, all in one shot.  A brief summary of the
      project was presented at IBPSA SimBuild in 2007 (see <a
        href="www.whiteboxtechnologies.com/download_06_YJH_doe2ep.htm">here</a>
      ).</p>
    <p>Since I left LBNL, I have used doe2ep sporadically, but have not
      done any development work except to obtain IP rights to the source
      code. The main difficulties in using doe2ep for translating
      eQUEST/DOE-2.2 INP to EnergyPlus IDF are the following:</p>
    1) Syntax differences between DOE-2.2 and DOE-2.1E inputs <br>
    2) Syntax changes from EnergyPlus 1.4 and subsequent versions of
    EnergyPlus<br>
    <p>Although it is conceivable to change the base program from
      DOE-2.1E to DOE-2.2, that is a major task not to be taken
      lightly.  What I have done so far is instead to write awk scripts
      to change DOE-2.2 to DOE-2.1E, and then run doe2ep on the
      converted 2.1E input file. There are several disadvantages to this
      method, since it loses the new functionality of 2.2. For example,
      DOE-2.2 allows for multiple lighting and equipment inputs within a
      single space. When this happens, I have had to add the additional
      inputs (provided they are accepted in EnergyPlus) using more awk
      scripts.</p>
    <p>On the output side, I have used the MultipleVersionUpdater
      utility program to migrate from 1.4 to 8.1 (last time I've had to
      do this) and, while the program is slow, it does seem to work. <br>
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    <p>Since this process is clearly not a releasable software,  my
      response to people who've asked for help is to send me their
      DOE-2.2 input file(s) to test, and I will let them know the amount
      of time needed for a successful conversion.  In most cases, the
      hangups are in the first step (converting from 2.2 to 2.1E) or if
      the eQUEST building model uses a System Type not covered in
      doe2ep.</p>
    <p>It's also occurred to me that the above process is inefficient,
      and that a better solution would be to (1) convert doe2ep to
      DOE-2.2, (2) expand the translation of HVAC systems, and (3)
      update the Export to the current version of EnergyPlus. However,
      doing this would require several months of work and I'm not
      convinced of the level of interest or need.  <br>
    </p>
    <p>For those who are interested, please go to this informal Doodle
      poll and let me know your level of interest, so I can plan
      accordingly:</p>
    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://doodle.com/poll/if2xk5x2znihadzh">http://doodle.com/poll/if2xk5x2znihadzh</a><br>
    </p>
    <p>Joe<br>
    </p>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="90">Joe Huang
White Box Technologies, Inc.
346 Rheem Blvd., Suite 205A
Moraga CA 94556
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com">yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com">http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com</a> for simulation-ready weather data
(o) (925)388-0265
(c) (510)928-2683
"building energy simulations at your fingertips"
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/10/2016 12:05 PM, Nick Caton
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Hi Holly,</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>This is kind of the inverse query,
            but very recently I had an exchange over unmethours.com with
            an individual trying to convert a project’s geometries from
            e+ to doe 2.1e: 
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="https://unmethours.com/question/20238/doe21e-geometric-input/">https://unmethours.com/question/20238/doe21e-geometric-input/</a></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Therein I touched on SIMEB.   Among
            other things, I understand SIMEB is one path to get from e+
            to doe2 and vice versa, though you may need to re-specify
            systems and zonal associations along the way.  I have had a
            single “rocky” experience converting a project from e+ to
            doe2 (for the previous lowdown showdown challenge), but I’d
            largely chalk those difficulties up to not reading the
            manual.  On that first try I was able to get spaces, zones,
            and MOST geometries across correctly alongside “placeholder”
            systems…  some heavy QC & redevelopment would have been
            necessary if I pushed further down that path.  Would
            personally be interested to explore the capabilities of
            SIMEB further in the future… and I haven’t tried the inverse
            conversion just yet (might make for an easier/smoother first
            effort!). 
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I also singled out Joe as the fellow
            behind
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.drawbdl.com/">http://www.drawbdl.com/</a>
            . DrawBDL is a for-cost solution which is probably of
            interest for your intended workflow, but you’ll need to
            confirm with Joe or other DrawBDL endusers the present
            extents of what it can presently convert and from which
            versions of doe2.  I’m not for example certain of how well
            DrawBDL handles doe 2.2/2.3 geometries relative to 2.1E, or
            how far beyond geometries DrawBDL extends. 
          </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>If it turns out you do have a
            “budget” for this conversion process, I understand over the
            years Joe also has developed a number of unpublished scripts
            which can automate some/lots of the process (depending on
            the systems & components involved) and it may be
            possible to contract him on a project-by-project basis to
            get a larger fraction of the conversion effort done for
            you.  You’ll have to ask him nicely ;-).</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>To address Jim’s suggestion:  the
            only commercially available interoperability path I recall
            between eQUEST/doe2 and a gbXML schema is/was via GBS … not
            sure where that stands today, as it has been some time since
            this was of interest for my projects.  Maybe someone from
            Autodesk can comment?
          </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>~Nick</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Nick Caton, P.E., BEMP</span></b><span></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>  Senior Energy Engineer</span><span><br>
                    </span><span>  Energy and Sustainability Services</span><span><br>
                    </span><span>  Schneider Electric</span><span></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>D  </span><span>913.564.6361
                    </span><span><br>
                    </span><span>M  </span><span>785.410.3317
                    </span><span><br>
                    </span><span>E  </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:nicholas.caton@schneider-electric.com"><span>nicholas.caton@schneider-electric.com</span></a><span><br>
                    </span><span>F  </span><span>913.564.6380</span><span></span></p>
                </td>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>15200 Santa Fe Trail Drive<br>
                      Suite 204<br>
                      Lenexa, KS 66219<br>
                      United States</span><span></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span>
                Bldg-sim [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian Fountain via Bldg-sim<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 08, 2016 7:52 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Samuelson, Holly Wasilowski
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:hsamuelson@gsd.harvard.edu"><hsamuelson@gsd.harvard.edu></a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] rebuilding eQuest model
                in EnergyPlus</span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>There is a tool from Quebec called
              SimEB that is cross platform between DOE-2.1, DOE-2.2 and
              EnergyPlus. Not sure if it will import an .inp ‎but it may
              be worth some investigation.</span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I believe the link is
            </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.simeb.ca"><span>www.simeb.ca</span></a><span>
            </span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:
                        </span></b><span>Jim Dirkes via Bldg-sim</span></p>
                  </div>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Sent:
                        </span></b><span>Friday, October 7, 2016 4:40 PM</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>To:
                        </span></b><span>Samuelson, Holly Wasilowski</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Reply To:
                        </span></b><span>Jim Dirkes</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Cc:
                        </span></b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org"><span>bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</span></a><span></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Subject:
                        </span></b><span>Re: [Bldg-sim] rebuilding
                        eQuest model in EnergyPlus</span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Holly,</span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>If you can export gbXML from
                  eQuest, I know DesignBuilder can import that format as
                  well as a number of others ... but I've never done it,
                  so I don't know how much detail comes with it :(</span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:24 PM,
                Samuelson, Holly Wasilowski via Bldg-sim <<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org"
                  target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a>>
                wrote:</p>
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                    <p><span>Dear Colleagues,</span></p>
                    <p><span>Do you have any time-saving advice or tips
                        for recreating an eQuest model in EnergyPlus?
                        (We would like to keep most of the geometry,
                        zoning, scheduling, and other inputs as similar
                        as possible, and then be able to take advantage
                        of some E+ functionality.)</span></p>
                    <p><span>Thank you in advance for any help!</span></p>
                    <p><span>Warmly, </span></p>
                    <p><span>Holly</span></p>
                    <p><span> </span></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Holly W.
                                      Samuelson, DDes | LEED
                                      | Registered Architect</span><span></span></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Assistant
                                      Professor Harvard Graduate School
                                      of Design</span><span></span></p>
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                                                          V Dirkes II,
                                                          PE, BEMP, LEED
                                                          AP<br>
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                                                          ASHRAE Journal
                                                          article on
                                                          energy
                                                          modeling</a></p>
                                                          <p><span>…an
                                                          open mind is
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                                                          an open mouth,
                                                          designed to
                                                          bite down on
                                                          something
                                                          solid and
                                                          nourishing</span><span>.</span><span></span></p>
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