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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">See 9.1.1 Scope, Exception 2 in 90.1-2013. “Lighting in dwelling units.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Table 9.5.1 specifies whole building LPDs. For multifamily, this would mean common spaces, such as corridors, lobby, laundry room, office, and so on.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">See the section on Lighting in table G3.1 in 90.1-2013. It says that in multifamily dwelling units, lighting provided via receptacles must be the same in the baseline and proposed models. The wired
lighting is a gray area, I guess, but assuming the same LPD in the proposed and baseline is probably the correct approach.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Rahul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Bldg-sim [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>via Bldg-sim<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 16, 2016 9:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] 90.1 - Minimum LPD for dwelling units<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">I’m a little confuse since I have read that article about 90.1 2013 addendum. (</span><a href="http://www.buildings.com/news/industry-news/articleid/20142/title/multifamily-may-be-responsible-for-tenant-lighting-.aspx"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">http://www.buildings.com/news/industry-news/articleid/20142/title/multifamily-may-be-responsible-for-tenant-lighting-.aspx</span></a><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">).
It says:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#605F59;background:white">More importantly, the standard would compel owners to address lighting within dwelling units, which have historically fallen outside
of 90.1’s scope.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#605F59;background:white"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">Three questions about this statement :
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">For a compliance path (like comCheck), which article from part 9 of the 90.1 standard (2010 or 2013) specifically exclude dwelling unit to have minimum LPD?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">Since Table 9.5.1 have a minimum LPD requirement for “multifamily” (that obviously include dwelling units), why Table 9.6.1 have no building type specific space type named “dwelling”
or a common space type for “bedroom” (for those who want to split the dwelling in different rooms)?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">In a LEED project (annex G) it’s common to combined dwelling units with the same orientation in a single thermal block, which LPD value do you enter in your model for these
thermal block ? (I assume LPD are same for your proposed and your baseline simulation)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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