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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>More broadly speaking:  The opening passages to Appendix G are clear in stating Appendix G is NOT a path to demonstrate compliance with the standard.  If you or your reviewer are interpreting the performance rating method as a way of demonstrating compliance, there is a disconnect to resolve.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The comment you received however might be “correct” if besides demonstrating the buildings performance rating, you must also demonstrate prescriptive compliance with 90.1.  <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’d advise answering conclusively whether prescriptive compliance documentation for 90.1 is something you’re supposed to be delivering, or not.  If so, I’d point you next towards COMcheck to efficiently evaluate the envelope trade-off alternative to meeting all of the minimums in the tables.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#3A7A46'><img width=722 height=9 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D20E84.52C7BF60"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#3A7A46'>Nick Caton, P.E.</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A7A46'><o:p></o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=724 style='width:543.0pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td width=230 valign=top style='width:172.3pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#626469'>  Senior Energy Engineer</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#626469'>  Energy and Sustainability Services</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#626469'>  Schneider Electric</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=291 valign=top style='width:218.3pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#57B069'>D  </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#626469'>913.564.6361 </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#57B069'>M  </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#626469'>785.410.3317 </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#57B069'>E  </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:nicholas.caton@schneider-electric.com"><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#626469'>nicholas.caton@schneider-electric.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#57B069'>F  </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#626469'>913.564.6380</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=203 valign=top style='width:152.4pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#626469'>15200 Santa Fe Trail Drive<br>Suite 204<br>Lenexa, KS 66219<br>United States</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr style='height:4.0pt'><td width=724 colspan=3 valign=top style='width:543.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;height:4.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-line-height-alt:4.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A7A46'><img border=0 width=722 height=49 id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image002.png@01D20E84.52C7BF60" alt="cid:image001.png@01D189AB.58634A10"></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A7A46'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Bldg-sim [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Francesco Passerini via Bldg-sim<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] Minimum Requirement of Thermal Performance of Proposed Building Envelope<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The U-values are not mandatory for the designed building. The U-value limits must be respected by the baseline model. The mandatory provisions for the designed building are in paragraph 5.4 as for the envelope (in par. 6.4 as for the HVAC system, in par. 7.4 as for the Service Hot Water, and so on).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Best Regards<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Francesco Passerini<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>______________________________________________________________________<br>This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service.<br>______________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Bldg-sim [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sherif Farag via Bldg-sim<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 07, 2016 10:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] Minimum Requirement of Thermal Performance of ProposedBuilding Envelope<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dears;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>It is my understanding that App G doesn't mandate the criteria of baseline building envelope' thermal performance as described on tables 5.5-1 through 5.5-8 to be implemented on the proposed building as well, it is the design team in collaboration with the energy modeller who shall decide about the adequate U-Factor of different building fabric element even if the U-factor's of some elements exceed the respective values of baseline building as far as the overall building performance achieved the required target, I don't think this is right interoperation of G1.2, please correct me if I am wrong.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have received the following comment from the rating authority "Please revise the above grade U-value to be equal to or less than the ASHRAE 90.1 baseline value"; for me, the comment doesn't correlate with the App. G.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Please let me know your thoughts;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p><a name="UNIQUE_ID_SafeHtmlFilter__MailAutoSig"><b>Sherif Farag</b></a><o:p></o:p></p><p><b>Sustainability Consultant</b><o:p></o:p></p><p>P.O. Box: 127842<o:p></o:p></p><p>Abu Dhabi, UAE<o:p></o:p></p><p>M: +971 55 199 0022 | E: <a href="mailto:sherif.sabr@gmail.com" target="_blank">sherif.sabr@gmail.com</a> | Skype ID: sherif.farag9<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br>______________________________________________________________________<br>This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service.<br>______________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>