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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>One additional comment. Using weather files 15-20 or more years old can be a problem depending on how accurate you wish to be both in absolute terms and in comparative terms as the weather in the past 10 years and projected into the future is different enough at many locations that it has measurable impacts on usage and in some cases should impact design decisions. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='color:windowtext'> Bldg-sim [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joe Huang via Bldg-sim<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 03, 2016 7:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] EPW file for Jakarta<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>A correction, followed by a rant about free weather data on the Web :-)<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p>doe2.com is the web site for eQUEST and is completely unrelated to DOE. The weather files on the doe2.com server are largely, if not entirely, obtained from the LBNL server used for DOE-2 development from the 1980s-2000s. These weather files were accumulated at LBNL while carrying out various research projects, mostly in the 1980s-1990s, in which I was quite involved. In those days, we assumed that weather files would be unavailable and budgeted for creating them from raw data. For example, the list of available stations for Asia (see <a href="http://doe2.com/Download/Weather/NON-US/asia-sp.txt">http://doe2.com/Download/Weather/NON-US/asia-sp.txt</a> ) contains 5 Chinese locations created for my sabbatical there, 5 Pakistani locations created for a World Bank project, and 5 Southeast Asian locations created for an USAID ASEAN project (which is why there is Jakarta), all done in the 1980s. Similarly, the 3 locations in Mexico were created for an USAID project I had there in the early 1990s. For some regions such as Europe, Australia, the Middle East, the files were contributed by Visiting Scholars, which explains why the selections might seem querky and uneven.<o:p></o:p></p><p>I have no objections to doe2.com hosting these weather files, and actually think it's a service since the LBNL server has been offline for at least 5 years. However, one of the unintended consequences in having free weather files online is that it fosters the mentality that weather files ought to be free and disposable. <br>However, as anyone who has ever tried can attest, creating a usable weather file from raw data takes quite a bit of effort. All the free weather files hosted on various web sites were all subsidized in some way, either by the government such as DOE for NREL to develop the TMYs, an university for academic research or by a research institute as part of a larger project, as I had described earlier. Outside of these circumstances, efforts to develop weather files, even by nonprofit organizations such as ASHRAE, has to be recovered in some fashion. The best analogy I have would be with books. I have yet to see someone asking for a book on some technical topic and expecting it to be free. <o:p></o:p></p><p>Now I like free stuff as much as anyone, and don't begrudge the free TMYs, CWECs, etc. floating around (in fact, I actually hosted many of these on my Web site). But if you can't find what you want among the free stuff, or if you prefer something more up-to-date (the majority of the non-US files on the doe2.com or the EnergyPlus weather web sites are at least 15 years old), please don't rule out paying for it.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Joe<o:p></o:p></p><pre>Joe Huang<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>White Box Technologies, Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>346 Rheem Blvd., Suite 205A<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Moraga CA 94556<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com">yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com">http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com</a> for simulation-ready weather data<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>(o) (925)388-0265<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>(c) (510)928-2683<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>"building energy simulations at your fingertips"<o:p></o:p></pre><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 8/3/2016 10:06 AM, Ajit Naik via Bldg-sim wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>The DOE has some non-USA weather data in BIN format here:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://doe2.com/Download/Weather/NON-US/">http://doe2.com/Download/Weather/NON-US/</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>the data is older – Jakarta file appears to be 19878.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>you can convert to EPW as described here:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://energy-models.com/forum/converting-bin-files-epw-files">http://energy-models.com/forum/converting-bin-files-epw-files</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Ajit Naik, </span><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>BEMP</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Energy Engineer</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#546488'>dbHMS<br></span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>303 W Erie Street, Suite 510</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Chicago, IL 60654</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>p (312) 915-0557 x308</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>f (312) 915-0558</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="www.dbhms.com"><span style='color:blue'>www.dbhms.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Bldg-sim [<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Vikram Sami via Bldg-sim<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:00 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] EPW file for Jakarta<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Where can I find an EPW file for Jakarta, Indonesia? 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