<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#b45f06">Joe,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#b45f06">If people are concerned about modeling for LEED baselines, there's no need to understand bridging's impact because the 90.1 tables already account for the bridging.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#b45f06">If, however, we want to prepare models that are true to the construction reality, we need to have an understanding of how heat transfers in real constructions.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#b45f06">Up until a few short years ago, that understanding had completely escaped me.  We'll just say that for 35 of 40 years of continuous involvement in commercial building heating and cooling systems, I didn't know that my U-values calculations were routinely off by 15-20%.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#b45f06">I bet I'm not alone!</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Joe Huang <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com" target="_blank">yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    A final comment on the original question of modeling thermal bridges
    in e-QUEST (or any other whole-building energy simulation
    program).   ASHRAE TC 4.7 had sponsored work on this topic 14 years
    ago (2000-2001),  "MODELING TWO- AND THREE- DIMENSIONAL HEAT
    TRANSFER THROUGH COMPOSITE WALL AND ROOF ASSEMBLIES IN TRANSIENT
    ENERGY SIMULATION PROGRAMS (1145-TRP)". The work was done by
    Enermodal in association with Oak  Ridge National Laboratory and the
    Polish Academy of Sciences.  The solution was pretty much what I had
    mentioned previously, i.e., use a 2-D conduction program (HEATING-7)
    to calculate response factors, although the project went one step
    further to derive a fictitious 3-layer 1-D wall section with  the
    same dynamic thermal properties.  For more information, please see
    the full report available from ORNL at<span style="color:#1f497d"> 
      <a href="http://web.ornl.gov/sci/roofs+walls/research/detailed_papers/whole_bldg/" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://web.ornl.gov/sci/roofs+walls/research/detailed_papers/whole_bldg/" target="_blank">http://web.ornl.gov/sci/roofs+walls/research/detailed_papers/whole_bldg/</a>
      .<br>
      <br>
      Although the project was successful technically, it seemed to have
      been ignored by the simulation community, and even in many ways 
      by TC 4.7 itself!  To me,the lesson is that no matter how good is
      the widget, there always has to be a tech transfer and
      dissemination effort lest the widget just sits on the shelf.  As a
      reaction to this thread,  I am currently bringing up the subject
      within TC4.7 whether we need to do a small follow-on project to do
      a guideline on modeling 2-D/3-D heat transfer along with a
      computer tool that makes it no more difficult (well... maybe a
      little more) to do than standard 1-D heat transfer.<br>
      <br>
      If  there's anyone on this bulletin board who thinks such a
      project would be useful, please let me know as I make my case to
      TC 4.7.<br>
      <br>
      Joe<br>
      (currently chair of TC 4.7)<br>
    </span><br>
    <pre cols="90"><span class="">Joe Huang
White Box Technologies, Inc.
346 Rheem Blvd., Suite 205A
Moraga CA 94556
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    <div>On 2/1/2016 6:35 AM, Jones, Christopher
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Christian,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
            agree that it is important for designers to understand the
            effects of thermal bridging at transitions in typical
            construction details. But convincing developers to spend the
            extra time and construction cost to reduce these thermal
            bridges is difficult considering the payback periods range
            from 30-40 years depending on the project and location.
            <u></u><u></u></span></p><span class="">
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><img src="cid:part2.07090103.09050603@whiteboxtechnologies.com" alt="cid:image003.png@01D09C46.E75BA0D0" height="43" width="108"></span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1c467a"><u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1c467a">Christopher
                Jones,</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">P.Eng.<i>
                <br>
              </i></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA">Senior Engineer<b><u></u><u></u></b></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA">WSP Canada Inc.<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA"><a href="http://www.wspgroup.com/" target="_blank">www.wspgroup.com</a>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        </span><div>
          <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                Christian Cianfrone
                [<a href="mailto:CCianfrone@morrisonhershfield.com" target="_blank">mailto:CCianfrone@morrisonhershfield.com</a>]
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 29, 2016 4:52 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Jones, Christopher; Joe Huang;
                <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> RE: [Bldg-sim] MODELLING THERMAL BRDIGES
                IN e-quest or DOE2 (minor correction on dates).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          </div>
        </div><span class="">
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Chris,
            Joe,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Refer
            to ASHRAE 1365-RP for detailed methodology on the modeling. 
            The same methodology was used in the BETB Guide. 
            Sensitivity of transient analysis for the thermal modeling
            was addressed in 1365-RP.  In terms of thermal mass impacts
            on energy modeling, this is dealt with in Appendix C of the
            report.  Analysis was done using EnergyPlus’ Finite
            Difference method for conduction.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Chris
            – the point of derating the reference building in the BC
            Hydro incentive is to encourage design teams to understand
            the actual performance of their envelope (and buildings). 
            If you just force people to include all thermal bridging
            when the codes were clearly developed to ignore most of this
            thermal bridging, then nobody will ever account for the full
            effects of thermal bridging.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">By
            not being realistic, designers end up adding (and paying)
            for more insulation with no real added value.  And the
            relative savings are not the same – The differences in
            energy at high R-values are not the same differences in
            energy at low R-values.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Paperwork
            is quite straightforward too.  It requires a few take-offs
            and looking up U-values/Psi Values, which an energy modeler
            is mostly already doing.  We’ll be releasing some how-to
            videos in the near future to help folks along.  I’ll post to
            this group when available.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><a name="-1681838342__MailEndCompose"></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Christian
              Cianfrone, <a href="http://M.A.Sc" target="_blank">M.A.Sc</a>., P.Eng., LEED</span></b><sup><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">®</span></sup><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">
              AP BD+C<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Principal,
            Building Energy Practice Lead<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:email@morrisonhershfield.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">ccianfrone@morrisonhershfield.com</span></a><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#00355e"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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        <div>
          <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                Bldg-sim [<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jones, Christopher<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 29, 2016 10:15 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Joe Huang <<a href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com" target="_blank">yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com</a>>;
                <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] MODELLING THERMAL BRDIGES
                IN e-quest or DOE2 (minor correction on dates).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Joe,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
            admit I haven’t read all the appendices. I use mainly
            appendix B which contains the steady-state U-values of
            dozens of constructions. Appendix C may provide some
            insights as to whether or not dynamic characteristics of the
            constructions were examined in their energy modeling.
            <u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">From
            this work, BC Hydro has decided that all thermal bridging in
            buildings are to be accounted for when performing modeling
            for BC Hydro incentives. But BC Hydro also now includes
            blanket factors for de-rating the baseline case energy model
            to account for typical thermal bridging not accounted for in
            90.1. It is a bit baffling to me as one has to go through a
            lot of work, fill in a bunch of forms to come up with almost
            no significant difference in relative results:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The
            same web page, just below “Resources” includes this
            Accounting for Thermal Bridging at Interface Details along
            with the spreadsheets:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="https://www.bchydro.com/powersmart/business/programs/new-construction.html#thermal" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://www.bchydro.com/powersmart/business/programs/new-construction.html#thermal" target="_blank">https://www.bchydro.com/powersmart/business/programs/new-construction.html#thermal</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><img src="cid:part2.07090103.09050603@whiteboxtechnologies.com" alt="cid:image003.png@01D09C46.E75BA0D0" border="0" height="43" width="108"></span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1c467a"><u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1c467a">Christopher
                Jones,</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">P.Eng.<i>
                <br>
              </i></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA">Senior Engineer<b><u></u><u></u></b></span></p><div><div class="h5">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA">WSP Canada Inc.<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA">2300 Yonge Street, Suite 2300<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA"><a href="http://www.wspgroup.com/" target="_blank">www.wspgroup.com</a>
            </span><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#565656" lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
        </div></div></div><div><div class="h5">
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <div>
          <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                Joe Huang [<a href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com" target="_blank">mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com</a>]
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 29, 2016 11:46 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Jones, Christopher; <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] MODELLING THERMAL BRDIGES
                IN e-quest or DOE2 (minor correction on dates).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Christopher, <br>
          <br>
          I took a brief scroll through the link that you provided, and
          yes, there's a lot of information there. I haven't yet found a
          technical description of the methodology, but I did get to the
          tables with pretty colored pictures of wall sections and their
          computed U-values. I hope there's more information on the
          dynamic characteristics of these wall sections, i.e., thermal
          mass, diffusivity, etc., since those would be needed to model
          them correctly in a simulation program.
          <br>
          <br>
          In terms of comparing the methodologies, as you've suggested,
          one place to start would be simply comparing the steady-state
          U-values derived for the same wall constructions. I've done
          some digging on my end and found an old 1997 User News
          newsletter with a brief description of the 2-D response factor
          work I did with Fred Winkelmann and Vladimir Bazjanac and a
          table listing the R-values for the 76 steel-frame wall
          sections modeled.  Since the whole newsletter is only 657K,
          I've attached it with this e-mail.  The newsletter is
          interesting in other ways, as well, including the announcement
          of the 5th IBPSA conference to be held in the Czech Republic
          :-) .<br>
          <br>
          Joe<u></u><u></u></p>
        <pre>Joe Huang      <u></u><u></u></pre>
        <pre>White Box Technologies, Inc.<u></u><u></u></pre>
        <pre>346 Rheem Blvd., Suite 205A<u></u><u></u></pre>
        <pre>Moraga CA 94556<u></u><u></u></pre>
        <pre><a href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com" target="_blank">yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
        <pre><a href="http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com" target="_blank">http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com</a> for simulation-ready weather data<u></u><u></u></pre>
        <pre><a href="http://www.whiteboxtechnologies.com" target="_blank">http://www.whiteboxtechnologies.com</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
        <pre>(o) <a href="tel:%28925%29388-0265" value="+19253880265" target="_blank">(925)388-0265</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
        <pre>(c) <a href="tel:%28510%29928-2683" value="+15109282683" target="_blank">(510)928-2683</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
        <pre>"building energy simulations at your fingertips"<u></u><u></u></pre>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal">On 1/29/2016 5:18 AM, Jones, Christopher
            wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
        </div>
        <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Joe,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It
              would be very interesting to compare the methodologies in
              your paper with the results of the Morrison Herschfield
              research. BC Hydro published that detailed research. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="https://www.bchydro.com/powersmart/business/programs/new-construction.html?WT.mc_id=rd_thermalguide#thermal" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://www.bchydro.com/powersmart/business/programs/new-construction.html?WT.mc_id=rd_thermalguide#thermal" target="_blank">https://www.bchydro.com/powersmart/business/programs/new-construction.html?WT.mc_id=rd_thermalguide#thermal</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><img src="cid:part2.07090103.09050603@whiteboxtechnologies.com" alt="cid:image003.png@01D09C46.E75BA0D0" border="0" height="43" width="108"></span><u></u><u></u></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1c467a">Christopher
                  Jones,</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">P.Eng.<i>
                  <br>
                </i></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA">Senior Engineer</span><u></u><u></u></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA"> </span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA">WSP Canada Inc.</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA">2300 Yonge Street, Suite 2300</span><u></u><u></u></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA">Toronto, ON M4P 1E4</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#595959" lang="EN-CA"><br>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA"><a href="http://www.wspgroup.com/" target="_blank">www.wspgroup.com</a>
              </span><u></u><u></u></p>
          </div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
          <div>
            <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                  Bldg-sim [<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joe Huang<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 29, 2016 5:44 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] MODELLING THERMAL
                  BRDIGES IN e-quest or DOE2 (minor correction on
                  dates).</span><u></u><u></u></p>
            </div>
          </div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The work I
            did for the CEC was done in 1996 (as indicated in the report
            title), not 2000-2002, which was a follow-on effort to do
            2-D foundation heat flows.<br>
            <br>
            Joe<u></u><u></u></p>
          <pre>Joe Huang      <u></u><u></u></pre>
          <pre>White Box Technologies, Inc.<u></u><u></u></pre>
          <pre>346 Rheem Blvd., Suite 205A<u></u><u></u></pre>
          <pre>Moraga CA 94556<u></u><u></u></pre>
          <pre><a href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com" target="_blank">yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
          <pre><a href="http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com" target="_blank">http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com</a> for simulation-ready weather data<u></u><u></u></pre>
          <pre><a href="http://www.whiteboxtechnologies.com" target="_blank">http://www.whiteboxtechnologies.com</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
          <pre>(o) <a href="tel:%28925%29388-0265" value="+19253880265" target="_blank">(925)388-0265</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
          <pre>(c) <a href="tel:%28510%29928-2683" value="+15109282683" target="_blank">(510)928-2683</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
          <pre>"building energy simulations at your fingertips"<u></u><u></u></pre>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">On 1/29/2016 2:41 AM, Joe Huang wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
          </div>
          <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I actually
              helped to develop a method to model thermal bridges in
              DOE-2 back in 1986 that has never been widely
              disseminated, although I still find it the most practical
              way to model 2-D heat flows in whole-building simulations.<br>
              <br>
              This method uses a two-dimensional finite-element program
              (WALFERFN) that calculates one-dimensional equivalent
              response factors which are written directly into the DOE-2
              layers library (BDLLIB.DAT), which can then be called by
              DOE-2 just like any other response factor in the library.<br>
              <br>
              I've always used this technique in my residential
              modeling, with the added benefit of not needing to input
              duplicate sets of wall layers for the stud and non-stud
              portions, which measurably simplifies the  models and
              makes them easier to read.  The last time I did
              significant work on this subject was in 2000-2002, when I
              created for the California Energy Commission a library of
              over 100 wall layers with metal framing and thus
              considerable thermal bridging.  I compared the wall
              assembly U-values to that calculated by ORNL's Heating-7
              program, and they were right on.  Unfortunately, a few
              years after the project was completed, the Commission
              decided to move to EnergyPlus as their reference program,
              and so this work was effectively abandoned.<br>
              <br>
              For more information on this technique, i.e., creating 2-D
              response factors, please see this report:<br>
              <a href="http://www.whiteboxtechnologies.com/PAPERS/96_12_YJH_2Drespfacs_CEC_rpt.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.whiteboxtechnologies.com/PAPERS/96_12_YJH_2Drespfacs_CEC_rpt.pdf</a><br>
              <br>
              If there's anyone who's still running DOE-2 in batch,
              rather than just the eQUEST interface, this procedure
              should be quite understandable.  Just e-mail me and I'll
              be happy to give you a copy of the WALFERFN program and
              some sample input files.
              <br>
              <br>
              Joe <u></u><u></u></p>
            <pre>Joe Huang        <u></u><u></u></pre>
            <pre>White Box Technologies, Inc.<u></u><u></u></pre>
            <pre>346 Rheem Blvd., Suite 205A<u></u><u></u></pre>
            <pre>Moraga CA 94556<u></u><u></u></pre>
            <pre><a href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com" target="_blank">yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
            <pre><a href="http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com" target="_blank">http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com</a> for simulation-ready weather data<u></u><u></u></pre>
            <pre><a href="http://www.whiteboxtechnologies.com" target="_blank">http://www.whiteboxtechnologies.com</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
            <pre>(o) <a href="tel:%28925%29388-0265" value="+19253880265" target="_blank">(925)388-0265</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
            <pre>(c) <a href="tel:%28510%29928-2683" value="+15109282683" target="_blank">(510)928-2683</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
            <pre>"building energy simulations at your fingertips"<u></u><u></u></pre>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal">On 1/28/2016 1:22 PM, Jim Dirkes
                wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
            </div>
            <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
              <div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">There is also a landmark study by
                    Morrison Hershfield in Canada which I don't have
                    access to at the moment that should provide
                    guidance.<u></u><u></u></p>
                </div>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 4:11 PM,
                    Marcus Sheffer <<a href="mailto:sheffer@sevengroup.com" target="_blank">sheffer@sevengroup.com</a>>
                    wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Follow the guidance in ASHRAE
                    90.1 Appendix A to determine the whole assembly
                    values.<br>
                    <br>
                    Marcus Sheffer<br>
                    7group<br>
                    <br>
                    -----Original Message-----<br>
                    From: Jones, Christopher [mailto:<a href="mailto:Christopher.r.Jones@wspgroup.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:Christopher.r.Jones@wspgroup.com" target="_blank">Christopher.r.Jones@wspgroup.com</a>]<br>
                    Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:30 AM<br>
                    To: Luis Peréz-Lombard; <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
                    Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] MODELLING THERMAL BRDIGES IN
                    e-quest or DOE2<br>
                    <br>
                    Hello Sir,<br>
                    eQuest does not have the capability to directly
                    model thermal bridges. The typical methodology is to
                    calculate the effective U-value of the
                    insulation/thermal bridge layer when building your
                    layers for the construction.  BC Hydro has published
                    significant research on building  envelope thermal
                    bridging. See the lower portion of the webpage:<br>
                    <a href="https://www.bchydro.com/powersmart/business/programs/new-construction.html#thermal" target="_blank">https://www.bchydro.com/powersmart/business/programs/new-construction.html#thermal</a><br>
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                        On Behalf Of Luis Peréz-Lombard<br>
                        Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 4:08 AM<br>
                        To: <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
                        Subject: [Bldg-sim] MODELLING THERMAL BRDIGES IN
                        e-quest or DOE2<br>
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                        Dear building simulation colleagues,<br>
                        I would very much appreciate any insights or
                        work around to simulate envelope thermal bridges
                        in e-quest.<br>
                        Sincerely,<br>
                        LPL<br>
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                        Luis Pérez-Lombard<br>
                        Dr. Ingeniero Industrial<br>
                        Profesor Contratado Doctor<br>
                        Departamento de Ingeniería Energética<br>
                        Escuela Superior de Ingenieros<br>
                        Universidad de Sevilla<br>
                        Camino de los Descubrimientos s/n<br>
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                                                          V Dirkes II,
                                                          PE, BEMP, LEED
                                                          AP<br>
                                                          CEO/President<br>
                                                          The Building
                                                          Performance
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