<div dir="ltr">Unconditioned parking garage would not contribute to your WWR. Only conditioned underground space should be counted.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><b>Elizabeth Gillmor <font size="1">PE, BEMP, LC, LEED AP</font></b><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:large;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><b><font color="#38761d" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">e n e r g e t i c s </font></b></span><b><font color="#38761d" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">consulting engineers, llc</font></b></div><div><font size="2" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" color="#666666"><a href="http://energetics-eng.com" target="_blank">energetics-eng.com</a></font></div><div><span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color="#666666">c 303.619.0091</font></span><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Jones, Christopher <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Christopher.r.Jones@wspgroup.com" target="_blank">Christopher.r.Jones@wspgroup.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1c467a">Christopher Jones,</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Eldridge<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 15, 2015 1:27 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] ASHRAE 90.1 Window to Wall area definition<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Example 5-Q in the 90.1-2013 User’s Manual still uses both above-grade and below-grade walls as “exterior walls” for determining gross wall area.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">David S. Eldridge, Jr., P.E., LEED AP BD+C, BEMP, BEAP, HBDP<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jones, Christopher<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 15, 2015 12:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] ASHRAE 90.1 Window to Wall area definition<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I know this question has been asked before but I could not find a related thread.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">90.1 states that the WWR is based on the gross wall area and the definition of gross wall area includes below ground walls as well as above ground walls.. Including
the below grade walls can make a significant difference in the WWR for typical urban high rise buildings with a number of below grade parking floors.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Can someone confirm that the WWR calculation is based on above grade wall area plus below grade wall area?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1c467a">Christopher Jones,</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">
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