<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:#b45f06">You people rock. I got way smarter in 5 minutes of reading your posts than 5 hours of scouring references.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Elizabeth Gillmor <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:elizabeth@energetics-eng.com" target="_blank">elizabeth@energetics-eng.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">That is a great point. Appendix G is different from the prescriptive requirements. <div><br></div><div>The prescriptive requirements (and thus Energy Cost Budget method) allow you to count below-grade conditioned walls as per section 5.5.4.5 as part of your "gross wall area", while Appendix G specifically says above-grade walls only.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class=""><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><b>Elizabeth Gillmor <font size="1">PE, BEMP, LC, LEED AP</font></b><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:large;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><b><font color="#38761d" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">e n e r g e t i c s </font></b></span><b><font color="#38761d" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">consulting engineers, llc</font></b></div><div><font size="2" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" color="#666666"><a href="http://energetics-eng.com" target="_blank">energetics-eng.com</a></font></div><div><span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color="#666666">c <a href="tel:303.619.0091" value="+13036190091" target="_blank">303.619.0091</a></font></span><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br></span><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Shaun Martin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:smartin@shaunmartinconsulting.com" target="_blank">smartin@shaunmartinconsulting.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Page 213 of 90.1-2010 says “above-grade”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Shaun<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Shaun Martin LEED-AP, BEMP<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Principal<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Shaun Martin Consulting<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">#90 – 425 Carrall Street<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Vancouver, BC V6B 6E3<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">p. <a href="tel:604-789-1095" value="+16047891095" target="_blank">604-789-1095</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="1506caf2c2097caa_1506c95187997e6e__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></a></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> Bldg-sim [mailto:<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jones, Christopher<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:15 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] ASHRAE 90.1 Window to Wall area definition<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I know this question has been asked before but I could not find a related thread.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">90.1 states that the WWR is based on the gross wall area and the definition of gross wall area includes below ground walls as well as above ground walls.. Including the below grade walls can make a significant difference in the WWR for typical urban high rise buildings with a number of below grade parking floors. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Can someone confirm that the WWR calculation is based on above grade wall area plus below grade wall area?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><img width="108" height="43" src="cid:image001.png@01D10735.A4F6BDB0" alt="cid:image003.png@01D09C46.E75BA0D0"></span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1c467a"><u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1c467a">Christopher Jones,</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">P.Eng.<i> <br></i></span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Senior Engineer<b><u></u><u></u></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">WSP Canada Inc.<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">2300 Yonge Street, Suite 2300<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Toronto, ON M4P 1E4</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#595959"><br></span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">T <a href="tel:%2B1%20416-644-4226" value="+14166444226" target="_blank">+1 416-644-4226</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">F <a href="tel:%2B1%20416-487-9766" value="+14164879766" target="_blank">+1 416-487-9766</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">C <a href="tel:%2B1%20416-697-0056" value="+14166970056" target="_blank">+1 416-697-0056</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a href="http://www.wspgroup.com/" target="_blank">www.wspgroup.com</a> </span><i><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#565656"><u></u><u></u></span></i></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="color:windowtext"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray"><br>You are receiving this communication because you are listed as a current WSP contact. 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