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    Jeff, Chris, <br>
    <br>
    I don't think RP-1404 sounds the same as what Chris is after.  In
    RP-1404, the goal is to find the shortest monitoring period, e.g., 2
    weeks, from which long-term annual performance can be reliably
    extrapolated.   From Chris' post, I get the feeling that he was
    interested in ways to take utility bills and somehow disaggregate
    them by end use and  shorter time periods (daily or even hourly). <br>
    <br>
    If all you're working with is monthly gas utility bills, I can't
    think of any other way than to regress them against variable-base
    degree days ala' the Princeton Scorekeeping Method (PRISM).  Use the
    base temperature with the best R2.  Then, take the average of the
    gas consumption for those months with no degree days as the
    non-weather-related gas consumption. The regression slope then
    allows you to apportion the weather-related gas consumption by day.
    <br>
    <br>
    All this assumes that both the base load and the heating
    load/degree-day are constant, which may be rather dubious,
    especially for something like a stadium. <br>
    <br>
    That's all for my two-cents.<br>
    <br>
    Joe<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Joe Huang    
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/27/2015 1:17 PM, Jeff Haberl
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoBodyText3" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><span
              style="TEXT-DECORATION: none">Hello Chris,
            </span></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoBodyText3" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><span
              style="TEXT-DECORATION: none">I think the definitive work
              on this was done as part of ASHRAE Research project 1404
              by Bass Abushakra and Agami Reddy...(see below).</span></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoBodyText3" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><span
              style="TEXT-DECORATION: none"></span></o:p> </p>
        <p class="MsoBodyText3" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><span
              style="TEXT-DECORATION: none">Jeff</span></o:p></p>
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                Roman","serif""></span></u></b> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; MARGIN: 0in
          -1in 0pt 0in"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><u><span
                style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New
                Roman","serif"">1404-RP
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        <p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; MARGIN: 0in 0in
          0pt"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span
              style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New
              Roman","serif"; TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase">Measurement,
              Modeling, Analysis and Reporting Protocols for Short-term
              M&V of Whole Building Energy Performance</span></b><span
            style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New
            Roman","serif"; TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            Roman","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="Document1" style="PAGE-BREAK-AFTER: auto; MARGIN: 0in
          0in 0pt; mso-pagination: widow-orphan">
          <span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Times New
            Roman","serif"">Completed January 2014<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; MARGIN: 0in
          -1in 0pt 0in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
            "Times New Roman","serif"">Milwaukee
            School of Engineering<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; MARGIN: 0in
          -1in 0pt 0in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
            "Times New Roman","serif"">Principal
            Investigator, Bass Abushakra<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; MARGIN: 0in
          -1in 0pt 0in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
            "Times New Roman","serif"">TC 4.7,
            Energy Calculations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          -1in 0pt 0in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
            "Times New Roman","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New
            Roman","serif"">The objective of this
            research is to develop a new method to determine the
            shortest time period for energy use monitoring involving
            hourly (or sub-hourly) data that will yield reliable and
            accurate long term energy use estimates within acceptable
            uncertainty limits. By evaluating the uncertainty in the
            measured data as the monitoring period progresses, the new
            method will allow users to evaluate the energy performance
            and calculate energy savings in commercial and institutional
            buildings, in a cost-effective short-term monitoring period
            instead of the current year-long monitoring stipulated in
            most M&V protocols. The new approach would resolve the
            problem of needing long-term monitored data, which is often
            very costly to obtain and/or historically unavailable. In
            addition, this measurement/extrapolation approach should be
            designed as simply as possible to meet the uncertainty
            targets in energy savings stipulated in M&V protocols
            such as ASHRAE Guideline 14.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <div><font size="2" color="#0000ff" face="Tahoma">8=!  8=) 
                :=)  8=)  ;=)  8=)  8=(  8=)  8=()  8=)  8=|  8=)  :=') 
                8=) 8=?<br>
                Jeff S. Haberl, Ph.D.,P.E.inactive,FASHRAE,FIBPSA,......<a
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                77843.............................http://esl.tamu.edu<br>
                8=/  8=)  :=)  8=)  ;=)  8=)  8=()  8=)  :=)  8=)  8=! 
                8=)  8=? 8=) </font><font size="2" color="#0000ff"
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          <div id="divRpF274620" style="DIRECTION: ltr"><font size="2"
              color="#000000" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> Bldg-sim
              [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] on behalf of
              Chris Yates [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:chris.malcolm.yates@gmail.com">chris.malcolm.yates@gmail.com</a>]<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 27, 2015 2:44 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] deriving shorter timestep data
              from monthly or annual<br>
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          <div>Dear all,<br>
            <br>
            I have monthly gas data for a soccer stadium and I'm trying
            to develop it toward daily (or even hourly) data so this can
            be used in subsequent assessments.<br>
            <br>
            My own efforts on previous assessments have extended to
            relatively crude application of multipliers (possibly based
            on a simulation study) and an overall divisor. This is very
            limited, especially in this case.<br>
            <br>
            In an ideal world, it would be helpful to develop the daily
            consumption weighted with the following factors:<br>
            <ul>
              <li>Parasitic losses - these can be estimated from when
                the facility is largely closed during the off season
              </li>
              <li>Historic game fixtures - readily available from the
                web </li>
              <li>Weather, including about 1MW of underpitch heating </li>
            </ul>
            <p>I'm surrendered to the possibility that this is well
              beyond me! But, can anybody suggest excel functions or
              other software tools they may have used, or even what math
              for me to look up on Google?
              <br>
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            <p>Many thanks <br>
            </p>
            <p>Chris<br>
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