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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Hi Julien,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">For either case, and even if the pools are interior to the building, I would consider citing “Lighting for swimming pools and water features” is under the exempted list for exterior lighting power calculations under 90.1-2010, and more broadly “athletic playing areas” under 90.1-2007. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Evoking that exception, you could </span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style><span style="color:#002060"><span style>A)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="color:#002060">have the baseline match the proposed (for a PRM model), </span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style><span style="color:#002060"><span style>B)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="color:#002060">omit that lighting power entirely (for demonstrating prescriptive compliance), or else</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style><span style="color:#002060"><span style>C)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="color:#002060">the stage is then set for you to differentiate from the baseline by demonstrating how your design saves energy relative to “standard” pool lighting by way of separate/exceptional calculations.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">If you want to wrap into your interior LPD regardless, </span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style><span style="color:#002060"><span style>1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="color:#002060">Gymnasium/Sports Arena/Exercise Center seem to be the likely candidates for BAM. </span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style><span style="color:#002060"><span style>2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="color:#002060">Class I through Class IV comes from IESNA Handbook/RP-6, and is used to differentiate illuminance recommendations based upon the degree of competition (ranging from professional/national at Class I down to amateur/recreational at class IV). I’d suggest having your lighting designer determine which set of illumination recommendations best matches the photometric calculations for pool surface/deck surface illumination.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">~Nick</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#002060">NICK CATON, P.E.</span></b><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><br></span><b><span style="color:#561782">Owner</span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#561782"> </span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#561782">Caton Energy Consulting</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1f497d"> 1150 N. 192<sup>nd</sup> St., #4-202</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1f497d"> Shoreline, WA 98133<br> office: 785.410.3317</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#561782"><a href="www.catonenergy.com"><span style="color:#561782">www.catonenergy.com</span></a></span><span style="color:#002060"></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style>From:</span></b><span style> Bldg-sim [mailto:<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:Julien.Dutel@mern.gouv.qc.ca">Julien.Dutel@mern.gouv.qc.ca</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 04, 2015 7:42 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] Swimming pool lighting with 90.1</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">Hello,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">I have two concrete cases where I’m embarrassed regarding lighting in a swimming pool with 90.1.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">Case 1 : A swimming pool building (the building is a swimming pool)</span></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">In the lighting section of 90.1, the Building Area Method (9.5) has no building area type corresponding specifically to a swimming pool. My guess would be to choose the “Gymnasium” because as a swimming pool, there is high ceiling and locker room.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">Using the Building Area Method, is the “Gymnasium” a correct assumption for a swimming pool building ? </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">Case 2 : A swimming pool in a residential building</span></u><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif""></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif""> Assuming that the “multifamily”’s LPD doesn’t allow me to comply to the Building Area Method, and I decide to choose the space by space method. My guess would be to choose a building-specific space type in the list “Sport Arena”, but I’m block by these <a href="http://energy-models.com/forum/energy-modeling-software/trace-700/leed-and-ashrae-901/lighting-power-density-space-space-meth">unanswered question</a> : what is the meaning of the class ? :</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:71.4pt"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:Symbol"><span style>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">Court sport arena – class 4</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:71.4pt"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:Symbol"><span style>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">Court sport arena – class 2</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:71.4pt"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:Symbol"><span style>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">Court sport arena – class 1</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">Using the Space by Space Method, what would be the best building-specific space type for the area dedicated to the pool ?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">Thanks,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif"">Julien</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif";color:green">Julien Dutel,</span></b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Droid Serif";color:green"> ing., CEM, CMVP<b>.</b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Droid Serif";color:black">Direction des secteurs résidentiel, institutionnel et des affaires</span><span lang="FR-CA" style></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Droid Serif";color:black">Bureau de l'efficacité et de l'innovation énergétiques</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Droid Serif";color:black">Ministère des Ressources naturelles</span><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Droid Serif";color:black"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Droid Serif";color:black">5700, 4e Avenue Ouest, B-406</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Droid Serif";color:black">Québec (Québec) G1H 6R1</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Droid Serif";color:black">Téléphone : 418 627-6379, poste 8060</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Droid Serif";color:black">Téléphone sans frais : 1 877 727-6655</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Droid Serif";color:black">Télécopieur : 418 643-5828</span><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Droid Serif";color:black"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA" style> </span><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Droid Serif";color:black"><a href="http://www.efficaciteenergetique.mrn.gouv.qc.ca/"><span style="color:blue">http://www.efficaciteenergetique.mrn.gouv.qc.ca</span></a></span><span lang="FR-CA" style></span></p></div></body></html>