<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Hi Jeremiah, </span><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
Would you mind sharing the resources people have shared with you, namely:</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div class="im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"><div style="font-size:12.800000190734863px">
<font color="#333333" face="tahoma, sans-serif">Tianzhen, thanks for the link. </font></div><div style="font-size:12.800000190734863px"><font color="#333333" face="tahoma, sans-serif">Zheng, thanks for the recommended reading. </font></div>
<div style="font-size:12.800000190734863px"><font color="#333333" face="tahoma, sans-serif">Matt, thanks for the link.</font></div><div style="font-size:12.800000190734863px"><font color="#333333" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div></div><div style="font-size:12.800000190734863px"><font color="#333333" face="tahoma, sans-serif">Thanks.</font></div><div style="font-size:12.800000190734863px"><font color="#333333" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div><div style="font-size:12.800000190734863px"><font color="#333333" face="tahoma, sans-serif">Diego</font></div><div style="font-size:12.800000190734863px"><font color="#333333" face="tahoma, sans-serif">Doctoral Candidate</font></div>
<div style="font-size:12.800000190734863px"><font color="#333333" face="tahoma, sans-serif">Harvard University</font></div></div></div><font color="#336666"><font><font face="tahoma,sans-serif"><div><font color="#336666"><font><font face="tahoma,sans-serif"><br>
</font></font></font></div>Diego, </font></font></font><div><font color="#336666"><font><font face="tahoma,sans-serif">I thought the responses that I got where posted to the list. For you and others reference I post all of the responses I got:</font></font></font></div>
<div><font color="#336666"><font><font face="tahoma,sans-serif"><br></font></font></font></div><div><ol><li><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Try green building advisor</span></li>
</ol></div><div><font color="#336666"><font><font face="tahoma,sans-serif"><br></font></font></font></div><div><font color="#336666" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face="tahoma,sans-serif"><font face="arial, sans-serif">(My </font>response<font face="arial, sans-serif"> to this) I read this </font></font></font><a href="http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/musings/energy-modeling-isn-t-very-accurate" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/musings/energy-modeling-isn-t-very-accurate</a><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> a while ago and did</span><font color="#336666" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face="tahoma,sans-serif"> not think much of the way they talked badly about modeling, and would prefer information from actual modelers, as I am using this to support my actual modeling.. To me their article seems like it is downplaying the benefits of modeling, written by someone who is reading about modeling and writing an article rather than actively doing it. It seems like taking advice about how to design a building from a contractor, they understand a bit, but really it is the architect and engineer that know what they are doing, the contractor is just the one who does it, or possibly more like getting news from a friend rather than the source. </font></font><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<font color="#336666"><font face="tahoma,sans-serif"><br></font></font></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color="#336666"><font face="tahoma,sans-serif">I am looking for personal experience or peer reviewed scientific papers. If anyone can help?</font></font></div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color="#336666"><font face="tahoma,sans-serif"><br></font></font></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<font color="#336666"><font face="tahoma,sans-serif"><br></font></font></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color="#336666"><font face="tahoma,sans-serif">Thanks </font></font></div>
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2. Hi;<br><br>I've got a custom house that started as an ASME design project. It was built in 1986.<br>We moved in January 1987. I have extensive records of energy used, features active<br>in a particular month...... would you be interested in a technology demonstrator in the<br>
Washington DC metro area ??<br><br> How about a Non Disclosure Agreement and a tele-meeting ??<br><br>JRR</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<font color="#336666">(My response) I am not so interisted in this due to the age of the model and complexity of the response.., modeling has came a long way since 1897! and I do not have much time for NDA's and tele-meetings... thanks anyway</font></div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">3. <b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Jeremiah,</span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I think you’ll find a room full of experts and lots of advice on this at the upcoming SPC 209 Meeting at ASHRAE in Denver. I’ve enclosed a copy of the agenda, as well as the Chair’s email, Jason Glazer. Part of the work for 209 is assembling the list you are looking for.<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Also, you’ll find useful information in the new Guideline 14, and in the Energy Management Handbook, by Doty and Turner.<a href="http://www.ibpsa.org/" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">www.ibpsa.org</a><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"> and the <a href="http://www.esl.tamu.edu/" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">www.esl.tamu.edu</a> are also good places to check as well.<u></u><u></u></span></span></b></p>
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<b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Jeff<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-align:center"><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">ASHRAE SPC209 Energy Simulation Aided Design<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<u></u><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">1.<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span><u></u><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">CALL TO ORDER<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6pt;margin-left:84.6pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><u></u><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">1.1.<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Roll Call/Quorum Determination<b><u></u><u></u></b></span></p>
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<u></u><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">8.<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span><u></u><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">NEXT MEETING:</span></b><i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
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<b><i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Subcommittee Meeting Times and Locations: (all in plaza building, concourse level)<u></u><u></u></span></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">SPC 209 Predesign Subcommittee - Sunday 6:00-10:00p Plaza Court 3<u></u><u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">SPC 209 Design development/Construction documents - Sunday 6:00-10:0p Plaza Court 6<u></u><u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">SPC 209 Construction/Commissioning/As-Built/Operations - Sunday 6:00-10:00p Plaza Court 1<u></u><u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">SPC 209 Resources/References/Definitions Subcommittee- Monday 8:00a-<span class="aBn" tabindex="0" style="border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dashed;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><span class="aQJ" style>Noon</span></span> Plaza Court 1<u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
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<div style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color="#336666"><font face="tahoma,sans-serif"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></font></font></div><div style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face="tahoma,sans-serif"><font face="arial, sans-serif">4. </font></font><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Jeremiah,</span></div>
<br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">That is an important topic among researchers and practitioners in the simulation community for the last 20-30 years. </span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">I made a presentation on this topic in a public EETD/LBNL seminar, A closer look at the energy performance of buildings: simulated vs. measured. Slides are available in PDF at </span><a href="http://eetd.lbl.gov/news/events/2011/03/03/a-closer-look-at-the-energy-performance-of-buildings-simulated-vs-measured" target="_blank" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">http://eetd.lbl.gov/news/events/2011/03/03/a-closer-look-at-the-energy-performance-of-buildings-simulated-vs-measured</a><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">I have some journal articles discussing related topics. You can find them by using the Google Scholar.</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Tianzhen</span><div><br></div><div>(my response) <span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Tianzhen, thanks for the link. This is good work, well done and very much what I was looking for. </span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<div><font color="#336666"><font><font face="tahoma,sans-serif"><br></font></font></font></div><div><font color="#330000"><font><font face="tahoma,sans-serif">5. </font></font><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Jeremiah,</span></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><font color="#330000">In the last couple of years, we did a couple of cases with DoD buildings and you can check the following papers:</font><font color="#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></font></span></p>
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<u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">1.<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">O’Neill, Z.D. and B. Eisenhower. 2013. Leveraging the Analysis of Parametric Uncertainty for Building Energy Model Calibration. Building Simulation<a name="13f591d8eb2bfd8c_OLE_LINK156" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"></a><a name="13f591d8eb2bfd8c_OLE_LINK157" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">: An International Journal. </a>DOI 10.1007/s12273-013-0125-8.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);margin-left:32.2pt"><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">2.<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">O’Neill, Z. D., B. Eisenhower, V. Fonoberov and T. Bailey. 2012. <a name="13f591d8eb2bfd8c_OLE_LINK135" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"></a><a name="13f591d8eb2bfd8c_OLE_LINK136" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Calibration of a Building Energy Model Considering Parametric Uncertainty</a>. ASHRAE Transactions, 118(2). <a name="13f591d8eb2bfd8c_OLE_LINK137" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"></a><a name="13f591d8eb2bfd8c_OLE_LINK138" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">ASHRAE Annual Meeting. San Antonio, TX. Jun 23–27, 2012</a>.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);margin-left:32.2pt"><a name="13f591d8eb2bfd8c_OLE_LINK40" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"></a><a name="13f591d8eb2bfd8c_OLE_LINK41" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">3.<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">O’Neill, Z. D., B. Eisenhower, S. Yuan, T. Bailey, S. Narayanan and V. Fonoberov.2011. </span></a><a name="13f591d8eb2bfd8c_OLE_LINK76" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"></a><a name="13f591d8eb2bfd8c_OLE_LINK75" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Modeling and Calibration of Energy Models for a DoD Building</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">. <a name="13f591d8eb2bfd8c_OLE_LINK133" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"></a><a name="13f591d8eb2bfd8c_OLE_LINK134" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">ASHRAE Transactions, 117(2): 358-365. </a>ASHRAE Annual Meeting. Montreal, <a name="13f591d8eb2bfd8c_OLE_LINK15" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"></a><a name="13f591d8eb2bfd8c_OLE_LINK7" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Québec</a>, Canada. June 25–29, 2011.</span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;text-indent:0in"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Zheng O’Neill, PhD, PE<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">The University of Alabama<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Box 870276<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:15px">(My response) Zheng, thanks for the info, I may purchase one of these papers, looks like very good work. </span></font></p>
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<font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:15px">6. </span></font><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Hi Jeremiah,</span></p><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">This might be too simplistic for what you're trying to do, and it's more "hands on" as opposed to "peer-reviewed research" but for some quick checks here's what I do:</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">* Compare to CBECS. I use </span><a href="http://www.buildingbenchmarks.com/" target="_blank" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">www.buildingbenchmarks.com</a><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">. It's a quick and free website. You enter basic info (zip code, square footage range, primary building activity, and range of years the building was completed) and it pulls the relevant info from CBECS for you. It gives you a simple breakdown of average annual electric and gas usage by activity (not monthly, unfortunately). So within a few seconds you can see how your model compares.</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">* For existing buildings with utility bills available, I run a baseline energy report per ASHRAE 14. I use </span><a href="http://www.noesisenergy.com/" target="_blank" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">www.noesisenergy.com</a><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">, another free tool. I enter in 12+ months of utility bills and it will generate weather-normalized baseline reports, complete with the regression analysis equations. They use heating and cooling degree days from the closest weather station to your site (based on the calculated balance point temperatures for heating or cooling), plus utility billing days for each month. They do NOT factor in other variables like occupancy or production. You can compare actual, adjusted baseline, and typical consumption for each month, for each utility. So if you're using TMY2 or TMY3 weather data in your model, you can see how it compares to the typical monthly consumption from the baseline report. I use this as a guide for calibration.</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">I've had a discussion with William Ball at Noesis about using their tools to better support energy modelers, and encouraged him to check out IBPSA.</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Again, this might be missing the point of your request, and a little too simplistic, so I didn't want to post it to the entire Bldg Sim listserv....</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Best of luck in your efforts and please let me know what you find!</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
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<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Manager, Energy Services</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Murphy & Miller, Inc.</span></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><font color="#336666">(My response) Matt, these look like very useful tools, saving time going through the database also providing useful data normalization. Thanks, I did not know about this service and will put it to use in the future. </font></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><font color="#336666"><br></font></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><font color="#336666">7. </font></font><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:Tahoma;font-size:13px">Dear Jeremiah,</span></div>
<div style="font-family:Tahoma;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">I recently completed my dissertation on reusing today's design-phase (compliance) energy models post-design, focusing on a building owner's perspective. For #2, "How does a proposed building typically stack up against the utility bills?", I'd say it partially depends on the original purpose of the model. Was the modeler trying to predict utility bills, or rather demonstrate compliance with a code/standard? <span style="font-size:10pt">For example, for LEED-compliance models under older LEED (ASHRAE 90.1) protocol, modelers made default assumptions regarding plug-loads. This could lead to very inaccurate models, especially for energy-intensive programs such as labs or data centers. I have some case studies, but they're essentially specific to these older versions of LEED. I'm not sure if that's helpful to you.</span></div>
<div style="font-family:Tahoma;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-size:10pt"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:Tahoma;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-size:10pt">For #3, "How accurate should an existing building model be to be considered useful?", I'd say it depends on what you're trying to do with the model. Test future retrofits? </span><span style="font-size:10pt">Benchmark the building?</span><span style="font-size:10pt"> Detect subtle equipment faults? I have a couple case studies that involved such major building faults that even relatively poorly-calibrated models (per ASHRAE 14 definitions) helped detect the problems. Again, I'm not sure if that's relevant to you.</span></div>
<div style="font-family:Tahoma;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="font-family:Tahoma;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">I'm happy to share my findings if they're relevant. Please contact me if this sounds like it might be helpful.</div>
<div style="font-family:Tahoma;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Best,</div><div style="font-family:Tahoma;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Holly</div><div style="font-family:Tahoma;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<font color="#888888"><div> </div><div><font color="#ff6600" face="Arial" size="1">Holly W. Samuelson<br></font></div><font face="Arial"></font><div><font color="#999999" face="Arial" size="1">Doctor of Design </font><font color="#999999" face="Arial" size="1"><font color="#888888"><font color="#999999" size="1">| </font></font>Registered Architect | LEED AP BD+C <br>
Lecturer Harvard Graduate School of Design</font></div><div><font color="#999999" face="Arial" size="1"><br></font></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51,102,102);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">(My response) Holly, thanks for the input and please do share the case studies.</span></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Diego Ibarra <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:diegobeps@gmail.com" target="_blank">diegobeps@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Hi Jeremiah, <div><br></div><div>Would you mind sharing the resources people have shared with you, namely:</div><div><div class="im"><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px">
<font color="#333333" face="tahoma, sans-serif">Tianzhen, thanks for the link. </font></div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px"><font color="#333333" face="tahoma, sans-serif">Zheng, thanks for the recommended reading. </font></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px">
<font color="#333333" face="tahoma, sans-serif">Matt, thanks for the link.</font></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px"><font color="#333333" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><br></font></div>
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On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Jeremiah Crossett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jcrossett@phasechange.com" target="_blank">jcrossett@phasechange.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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</font></font></div><div><span><font color="#333333" face="tahoma, sans-serif">Tianzhen, thanks for the link. </font></span></div><div><span><font color="#333333" face="tahoma, sans-serif">Zheng, thanks for the recommended reading. </font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#333333" face="tahoma, sans-serif">Matt, thanks for the link.</font></span></div><div><span><font color="#333333" face="tahoma, sans-serif">Holly, thanks for the information and yes, please do send your case studies. </font></span></div>
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<br><br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Samuelson, Holly Wasilowski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hsamuelson@gsd.harvard.edu" target="_blank">hsamuelson@gsd.harvard.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>I recently completed my dissertation on reusing today's design-phase (compliance) energy models post-design, focusing on a building owner's perspective. For #2, "How does a proposed building typically stack up against the utility bills?", I'd say it partially
depends on the original purpose of the model. Was the modeler trying to predict utility bills, or rather demonstrate compliance with a code/standard? <span style="font-size:10pt">For example, for LEED-compliance models under older LEED (ASHRAE 90.1) protocol,
modelers made default assumptions regarding plug-loads. This could lead to very inaccurate models, especially for energy-intensive programs such as labs or data centers. I have some case studies, but they're essentially specific to these older versions of
LEED. I'm not sure if that's helpful to you.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:10pt">For #3, "How accurate should an existing building model be to be considered useful?", I'd say it depends on what you're trying to do with the model. Test future retrofits? </span><span style="font-size:10pt">Benchmark the
building?</span><span style="font-size:10pt"> Detect subtle equipment faults? I have a couple case studies that involved such major building faults that even relatively poorly-calibrated models (per ASHRAE 14 definitions) helped detect the problems. Again,
I'm not sure if that's relevant to you.</span></div>
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<div>I'm happy to share my findings if they're relevant. Please contact me if this sounds like it might be helpful.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Jeremiah Crossett [<a href="mailto:jcrossett@phasechange.com" target="_blank">jcrossett@phasechange.com</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 17, 2013 10:08 PM<div><br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a>; Terry Puccini<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] Recommended reading on comparison of models to actual?<br>
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<div><font color="#336666"><font><font face="tahoma,sans-serif">Dear bldg sim,</font></font></font>
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<div><font color="#336666"><font><font face="tahoma,sans-serif">I am looking for papers that elaborate on the concept of modeling, and how it correlates to actual utility data to share with people within my company.</font></font></font></div>
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<div><font color="#336666"><font><font face="tahoma,sans-serif">The questions keeps popping up, eg.. </font></font></font></div>
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<li><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,102,102)">How does a baseline building compare to an average building?</span></li><li><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,102,102)">How does a proposed building typically stack up against the utility bills once the building is built?</span>
</li><li><font color="#336666" face="tahoma, sans-serif">How accurate an existing building model should be to be considered useful, and how accurate is typically possible? </font></li><li><font color="#336666" face="tahoma, sans-serif">For an experimental setup what would be considered to be close enough to be considered a "validated" model? </font>
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<div><font color="#336666" face="tahoma, sans-serif">My understanding is that modeling is to show relationships between average a baseline of a chosen vintage and that of a proposed design in terms of relative percentages. For existing buildings I think that
useful is within 20% and typically possible is 10%. Then for a validation model, the most important factor is similar curves and close totals. </font></div>
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<div><font color="#336666" face="tahoma, sans-serif">If anyone has any recommended papers, or personal experience it would be appreciated. </font></div>
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<div><font color="#336666" face="tahoma, sans-serif">Kind regards </font></div>
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