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<div>As far as I'm aware, nothing like that exists. Nor could it, ASHRAE 90.1 is too complex to make something like that make every decision automated.<br>
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On Feb 7, 2013, at 1:12 PM, "Rosenberg, Michael I" <<a href="mailto:michael.rosenberg@pnnl.gov">michael.rosenberg@pnnl.gov</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What I was really interested in is software that does the whole process automatically. No manipulation on the part of the user at all. You input a proposed building design, and following one of the rulesets results are generated. Does that
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nathan Kegel; Rosenberg, Michael I; <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: Automatic Generation of Baseline Models<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nathan Kegel<br>
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<b>To:</b> Rosenberg, Michael I; <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">You do need to be careful about “automatic” – it’s a complex thing to fully automate. There are more exceptions than rules.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">IES VE has a PRM Navigator which automates baselines for both 90.1-2004 and 2007 following the PRM methodology (Appendix G).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">The PRM Navigator does auto-generate much of the baseline – but also allows the user to go in and see and “break” or edit the baseline as needed for different conditions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am hoping the building simulation community can help answer a question for me. What software packages out there automatically generate baseline models for the ASHRAE 90.1 Energy Cost Budget Methodology or Appendix G? Thanks.
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