Thank you, Kristin. Thank you for your thoughts and suggestions -- I'll give them a try.<div><br></div><div>Geof</div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Field, Kristin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Kristin.Field@nrel.gov" target="_blank">Kristin.Field@nrel.gov</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Geof,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I agree with Vikram that the PNNL models are a useful resource. A similar set of models (the DOE commercial reference buildings) is also publicly available here:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://www1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/commercial/ref_buildings.html" target="_blank">http://www1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/commercial/ref_buildings.html</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Since the models are similar, you might wonder why I suggested these. The reason is that some of the system types change between the new construction (per ASHRAE 90.1-2004) models and the existing building (“post1980” and “pre1980” construction) models, so this would give you a broader set of models. Also, the lighting power is higher, and the infiltration is much higher for these existing building models. This can sometimes make the simulations different enough (warm-up time, HVAC iterations, etc.) that you might want to check with these existing building models, too. If you don’t want to look at all of them, then you may just want to do pre1980 in a few cities.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Enjoy!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Kristin Field, NREL<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sami, Vikram<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 18, 2012 1:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> Geof Sawaya; <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Need 'realistic' Building Models for E+<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Geof,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">There’s the PNNL ASHRAE model set that you could reference: <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://www.energycodes.gov/development/commercial/90.1_models" target="_blank">http://www.energycodes.gov/development/commercial/90.1_models</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">My opinion: </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I did take a look at this around 6 months ago and the model EUI results seemed a little low, but it’s a great resource nonetheless. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#dcaa2c"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray">Vikram Sami</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray">, LEED AP BD+C<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:3.0pt;text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray">Perkins+Will.</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray"> </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#add425">Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:green"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Geof Sawaya<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 17, 2012 7:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] Need 'realistic' Building Models for E+<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Bldg-sim community,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I am currently doing some work on EnergyPlus with the goal of speeding it up. My background is in Computer Science.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I'm looking for realistic models that I can input to E+ to help me understand the areas that need improvement and to better focus my efforts.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Do any of you have any large scale / realistic inputs for EnergyPlus that I could use? I will keep them confidential within the E+ development team.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Many thanks -- <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">Geof Sawaya<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">DOE Building Technologies Compute Fellow<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">EETD / BTD / Simulation Research Group<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Lawrence Berkeley Lab, Berkeley, CA<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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